Philosophers of religion discuss religious experience and its relevance to knowing God. William Alston, Keith Ward, William Lane Craig, and others, interviewed.
The way to know God is by the Spirit that Jesus died and sent back, which is the gift of God to us. You cannot know Him from reading the bible. The bible is only a history book.
@afluffymango part 2 ..it says in Jeremiah 19.9 that God tells parents to kill their sons and daughters and then if that isnt bad enough he tells them to EAT THEIR FLESH ! Cumon,get real about this ! Who am I to deliberate moral issues you say,well im just another human being like yourself but my gut instinct tells me not to harm. If you wish to believe in such things and in particular the Malevolent God of the old testament,go ahead..its not something id'e engage myself in.
@afluffymango As I said in my comment..the burden of proof is on the theist,not on the atheist. The concept of God is man - made, probably had its beginnings with fearful caveman and then religions formed a few thousad yrs ago. The idea of a God who sends plagues and floods etc to torture and kill people by its very admission suggests a malevolent God - it doesn't take a superbrain to work that out - its total opposite to what a God of "LOVE" should be..cnt'd
@brindow1 You call religion fairy tales, you'll have to prove that... You say the Bible portrays a malevolent God, well seeing as you are clearly an atheist you have no foundation for any objective morality whatsoever so you can't say anything is "good" or "evil" in your worldview since to be philosophically you'd have to admit that morals are just a matter of subjective opinion... You say Christian faiths are filled with contradictions? examples would help. (Continued in next comment)
The "burdon of proof" IS NOT on people who DONT believe in fairytales ! The guy in the vid has some nerve to imply that. If YOU believe in this God entity -you prove it ! The bible clearly portrays a malevolent God -and yet Christians still believe he is a God of "love"..the bible is full of contradictions and so to are all Christian faiths. But if theiests wish to delude themselves and believe in something that isnt there,its their business.
By experience, if you mean He actually showed up and had coffee with you and your friends, sure, you can know Him then. I bet He'd tell you lots of interesting things, maybe even show you a small miracle or two.
If it's anything else, it's delusional thinking. You could just as easily and truthfully know Odin, Thor, Shiva, Vishnu, Allah, and Mithra as you could know Yahweh.
@AntiCitizenX From what you've written on your channel, you seem interested in de-converting people. Here's a hint: simply insulting people's intelligence isn't very persuasive. I also question how much you mean your comment about keeping discussion civil.
Since you said that God cannot be part of a natural process, I really don't think you've yet understood the "garbage" of the contingency argument. The imagined argument you're rejecting is probably one that I do, as well.
There are 10,000 atheists on YouTube who would be more than happy to argue with you over contingency. I am not one of them. I have read the contingency argument and studied it. If you're the kind of person who finds that kind of garbage compelling, then truth obviously does not have much meaning to you.
The way to know God is by the Spirit that Jesus died and sent back, which is the gift of God to us. You cannot know Him from reading the bible. The bible is only a history book.
BIBLEisMARKofBEAST 4 weeks ago
@afluffymango Hit a nerve did I ?
brindow1 1 month ago
@brindow1 You obviously did not understand what I was saying, carry on in your delusions. You're not worth my time.
afluffymango 1 month ago
@afluffymango part 2 ..it says in Jeremiah 19.9 that God tells parents to kill their sons and daughters and then if that isnt bad enough he tells them to EAT THEIR FLESH ! Cumon,get real about this ! Who am I to deliberate moral issues you say,well im just another human being like yourself but my gut instinct tells me not to harm. If you wish to believe in such things and in particular the Malevolent God of the old testament,go ahead..its not something id'e engage myself in.
brindow1 1 month ago
@afluffymango As I said in my comment..the burden of proof is on the theist,not on the atheist. The concept of God is man - made, probably had its beginnings with fearful caveman and then religions formed a few thousad yrs ago. The idea of a God who sends plagues and floods etc to torture and kill people by its very admission suggests a malevolent God - it doesn't take a superbrain to work that out - its total opposite to what a God of "LOVE" should be..cnt'd
brindow1 1 month ago
@brindow1 You call religion fairy tales, you'll have to prove that... You say the Bible portrays a malevolent God, well seeing as you are clearly an atheist you have no foundation for any objective morality whatsoever so you can't say anything is "good" or "evil" in your worldview since to be philosophically you'd have to admit that morals are just a matter of subjective opinion... You say Christian faiths are filled with contradictions? examples would help. (Continued in next comment)
afluffymango 1 month ago
The "burdon of proof" IS NOT on people who DONT believe in fairytales ! The guy in the vid has some nerve to imply that. If YOU believe in this God entity -you prove it ! The bible clearly portrays a malevolent God -and yet Christians still believe he is a God of "love"..the bible is full of contradictions and so to are all Christian faiths. But if theiests wish to delude themselves and believe in something that isnt there,its their business.
brindow1 3 months ago
By experience, if you mean He actually showed up and had coffee with you and your friends, sure, you can know Him then. I bet He'd tell you lots of interesting things, maybe even show you a small miracle or two.
If it's anything else, it's delusional thinking. You could just as easily and truthfully know Odin, Thor, Shiva, Vishnu, Allah, and Mithra as you could know Yahweh.
ChipArgyle 4 months ago
@AntiCitizenX From what you've written on your channel, you seem interested in de-converting people. Here's a hint: simply insulting people's intelligence isn't very persuasive. I also question how much you mean your comment about keeping discussion civil.
Since you said that God cannot be part of a natural process, I really don't think you've yet understood the "garbage" of the contingency argument. The imagined argument you're rejecting is probably one that I do, as well.
Mystagogia87 4 months ago
@Mystagogia87
There are 10,000 atheists on YouTube who would be more than happy to argue with you over contingency. I am not one of them. I have read the contingency argument and studied it. If you're the kind of person who finds that kind of garbage compelling, then truth obviously does not have much meaning to you.
AntiCitizenX 4 months ago