God, Bill Maher, GOP, Abramoff & More (The Point)

Cenk Uygur (host, The Young Turks), Richard Eskow (Huffington Post), Ana Kasparian (co-host, The Young Turks and host, TYT University), and Michael Shure (host, 2012) break down points from former lobbyist and convicted felon Jack Abramoff, comedian Dean Obeidallah, and comedian Bill Maher. Topics include lobbyists corrupting Congress, God choosing Republican presidential candidates and Bill Maher's controversial tweet involving Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow and Jesus.

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[morpheusxnyc]

@StayClassyYou - Why would I mention Pascal's wager? It's an absurdity. There are hundreds of thousands of gods and religions. 30,000 different denominations of Christianity alone (yes, 30K, look it up).

By virtue of sheer numbers of them and mathematical probabilities, you should bet that your religion is the wrong one.

Why would I believe in imaginary things just in case? Where would the list end? Gods, fairies, bigfoot, the chupacabra, candyman, ghosts, vampires, etc?

Preposterous.

[morpheusxnyc]

@StayClassyYou Also, I've addressed this before but you keep bringing it up so apparently let me remind you: I have said that we all agree that "god would not intervene in a football game".

But we RATIONALISTS believe it to be so because we don't believe ANY SUCH GOD EXISTS.

You, however, divine to know his will and what he would and would not do - a feat which requires you to speak for an imaginary being's motives, yet still insist that he answers prayers. Just not THOSE prayers. Delusional.

[morpheusxnyc]

@StayClassyYou So to clarify, you keep straw manning me and saying that I've called ALL your beliefs irrational, which I haven't, nor have I even implied it. I've even gone so far as to say that you may very well be rational in all other area except for this one, compartmentalized one.

So you ARE irrational when it comes to religious beliefs, as you require no proof, only faith and no evidence will sway your mind

So to recap, I didn't call ALL your beliefs irrational, therefore no ad hominem.

[morpheusxnyc]

@StayClassyYou 1) You said,"Everyone was disagreeing with me was doing so on a false premise". You said "everyone", not me. I just quoted you and now you're trying to make it seem as if I'm the originator of that word with respect to you. Nice.

2) You can't disprove a negative, but you can disprove the positive assertions made by the religious about history and the natural world, which is what I was referring to.

3) Straw man. YOU keep saying ALL your beliefs even though I HAVE NEVER said that.

[JeriDro]

@morpheusxnyc obviously it means something to you ;)

[midnightrider245]

Heres a solution, get all them politicians out of dc and spread them across the country. they are only aware of what is there... the lobbyists

[UseYerEFFINBrain]

@StayClassyYou In the flawed way you presented it, Pascal's wager gave you a 100% chance at heaven. Considering there are multiple religions each with multiple incompatible interpretations, it gives you a 0.00000000001% chance

I would say going from 100% to 0.00000000001% is a pretty big blow to the argument

Besides, being atheists COULD be the only way to heaven (see my other post). So I am NOT decreasing my odds by not believing in the talking snake, the zombie invasion or the flying horse

[UseYerEFFINBrain]

@StayClassyYou Wrong. It could be that God's plan is to create a bunch of absurd, immoral books that are pro slavery, pro rape, pro genocide to see who is gullible and amoral enough to believe that they are actually his will.

If you make a worthy use of the brain he gave you, and are able to see through the BS presented by the clergy, then you get rewarded with heaven

It could be that the only group that goes to heaven is atheists.

[StayClassyYou]

@morpheusxnyc Not to mention you never mentioned anything about Pascal's Wager.... which though not something I really buy into, could certainly be considered rational.

[StayClassyYou]

@morpheusxnyc 1) First off "everyone" consists of approximately 4 angry atheists. I got about the same number of comments agreeing and many more thumbs. "Demonstrably false" - please demonstrate how you can prove a negative I'd like to see this.

The false premise is that, you keep perverting my entire comment. The point was if god can't be benevolent and interventionist in football

2) Characterizing all my beliefs as irrational because of one "irrational" belief; that would be ad hominem