IIHS '59 Bel-air vs. '09 Malibu, video response.... not faked.

A little detail into the cars and why Dr. Strangegun thinks the video is bona-fide. Purely opinion, but common sense.

"resource" is http://www.58classicchevy.com/specifications.html

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[3762569]

are you really going to believe that an 09 malibu drove through the block of that 59?

[mfree80286]

@3762569 Nope. I am going to believe though, that the '09 drove right up along that skinny 6 block and straight up to the passenger compartment.

Are you going to believe that one unsupported angled steel bar, a sheetmetal inner fender, and a sheetmetal outer fender is going to stop a nearly two-ton car from diving right in to passenger space and swimming around like a shark?

[3762569]

@mfree80286 it would also help if they actually met frame rail to frame rail.

[mfree80286]

@3762569 The only thing that would help the '59 in a frontal offset like this is if that driver's front frame rail met *anything*. It's hung out there like a tree branch with no support, and better yet, there's no support behind it at the rocker panel either. Hit one hard in the side and watch it split in half. An X frame might be an interesting idea for driving dynamics or efficient production, but not for anything with any possibility of taking a vehicle strike.

[jeremiahskates]

h well they also forgot to mention the little fact that

1.It had a fucking straight 6 in it get a v8 and go head on!

2.They had x frames.

3. And no i dont like gm but i like and no that an older car would fuckin cremate a peice of shit new car. in fact i could make a vid of my 66 dodge doin a 5mph test and i doubt it would cost the typical 3000+

at most i might have a scratch...

[mfree80286]

@jeremiahskates You know, with about 5 seconds of searching you can find NCAP percentage offset tests (done outdoors) for the '08 and '10 Tauruses. IIRC the 50% was done with an impact speed of 70mph. Granted that's about the best chassis I've seen for impact durability, but pretty much any older vehicle with the same test will look like a rumpled ball of tin foil afterwards. For that matter, you can go watch the car start to roll off the test pad after a 35mph direct head-on barrier test.

[bodymanification]

For many of the people who comment on these videos this will be thier first lesson in structural engineering so don't expect to many intelligent responces. It's a very good clip. It's a shame they had to destroy the 59, but in order to move foward in engineering we need to see where we came from.

[kevintomb]

@3762569 Yes. If you understand how structural engineering works and look at the structures of both cars, its obvious why the outcome was what it was. No big deal. Emotions dont control how things deform, but physics.

[jeremiahskates]

@mfree80286 And id rather be able to afford or even fix my own car if it got in a crash, instead of having to take a fucking loan out just to pay for the fucker! And tell me this If you tool a 36 inch sledge and swung it at the side of a new pickup would it dent it? Cause i no that it didn't dent a 1973 ford f-250! And maybe when they get a real test one that's even some what fair all believe it... but only proof you got now is a video which they choose a straight 6 car with an x frame!

[jeremiahskates]

@mfree80286 Okay without being myself all try to go soft on you. First we are talking about this crash, and do you really want to no why new cars "MIGHT" have some better crash results at higher speeds? It's the simple fact that they stuff the front with so much bullshit! like wiring and random shit. Where if you go look under the hood on a old car you can actually work on stuff and see parts... which thus weakening the front.

[markVIIchick]

@jeremiahskates

For that matter who daily drive in a 1950's classic car anyways unless its to a car show once or twice a year? Then they picked a car with a *x-frame*; its a flawed test to begin with and they chose the weakest frame for a reason. I say do a retest with the same '09 Malibu versus ANY late 60's-80's similar sized car; lets see *those* results >8-)