Thomas Sowell - Welfare

Thomas Sowell debates the dynamics of welfare with Pennsylvania Secretary of Welfare, Helen O'Banion (1980) http://www.LibertyPen.com

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[LucisFerre1]

@NAGGERNUTZ, You're correct, and not only that, of our impoverished, what do you think would be the top five health problems facing them, exposure to the elements, exhaustion, malnutrition or starvation? No, they're ALL obesity related diseases. In fact, the impoverished in America have an obesity rate and smoking rate that far exceeds the national average. There will always be a top 5 health problems of the poor, but that ours involve indulgence rather than deprivation is a sign of prosperity.

[grecorivera941]

This cat is a fricking rock star!

[LucisFerre1]

@Derlandvermesser said [[ You succeeded because you milked the US government's budget too. You just got yours off the top]]

No, I've succeeded because I've worked my ass off, sometimes in the states and sometimes in dangerous places around the world where others were afraid to go. Tell me more about how no one should expect anything from you. It puts me in a good mood.

[LucisFerre1]

@Derlandvermesser said [[Not everyone even has the right stuff to manage themselves let alone do military service. There are naturally stupid, weak people out there that aren't fit to serve. Should we start exterminating the lame and blind Adolf?]]

So, the standard we should hold you to is that of the retarded and the handicapped? You at once call the military social services and also an elite force for people with "the right stuff". Interesting. Has it occurred to you that it's a JOB?

[LucisFerre1]

@Derlandvermesser, Apparently you're telling me that you're a LOSER and I should just stop expecting you to help yourself. After all, you can't figure out that a pound of dry beans can feed you for a week cheaper than buying a weeks' worth of McDonald's dollar meals. You also seem to be under the impression that Jews become doctors and lawyers effortlessly. Calling me "Adolph" for praising the Jews just goes to show how your head is filled with corn mush.

[Derlandvermesser]

@LucisFerre1 Actually Adolf is incorrect because you mention Jewish people and I concede their "success" was stolen from one and handed to them with no real effort on their part. Asian people I have no real comment on. And the price of these "dry goods" is still more than fast food. Get down off your high horse and realize that society does place people in situations they damn near cannot escape. I guess you should be happy you haven't needed social services obviously

[Derlandvermesser]

@LucisFerre1 Not everyone even has the right stuff to manage themselves let alone do military service. There are naturally stupid, weak people out there that aren't fit to serve. Should we start exterminating the lame and blind Adolf? There are people that were born into desperate situations that made early criminal records thereby making one ineligible to even do something as great as attend ITT or even leave the country post 9/11. I personally cannot get a passport

[Derlandvermesser]

@LucisFerre1 Thank you for your inspiring Reader's Digest tale. First and foremost, the military IS little more than a social services program just like any other. Free every gd thing except yours comes with a lifetime "Infallible Hero" medal that elevates you socially because you had the civic pride and duty to fight distant politicians and kings wars, right? Save it. You succeeded because you milked the US government's budget too. You just got yours off the top

[NoProbaloAmigo]

@LucisFerre1 It's a subsidy as far as there is a transfer of cash from the working to the retired. It would be interesting to make that calculation, because frankly, I don't know, and it will vary on the person.

[LucisFerre1]

@Vladivostok3701, welfare is also a scam. Politicians purport that we're taking from the rich and giving to the poor, "spreading the wealth around", when actually only 17 cents of each welfare dollar gets to the recipient and 83 cents is overhead. 5 out of every 6 dollars is taken from "the rich" and "redistributed" to wasteful bureaucratic overhead for programs run by rich politicians and legislators. The meager portions given to the poor is a smokescreen.

[LucisFerre1]

@JImmy4336, that's a newt gingrich plan. (All economics aside, he's a revolting character, lol). I contend that poverty is not merely lack of money, (and certainly not lack of other people's money), it's lack of knowing how to create and keep ones own wealth and the willingness to do so. Those who are unwilling to manage their money will always be poor. One of my sisters, for example, is a ne're-do-well who has repeatedly refused to budget or plan and gone bankrupt twice. It takes all kinds...