Bartók - String Quartet No. 4 - Mov. 1-2/5
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To Maestro TGS. I disagree with your statement about serialist not having to study counterpoint. When and where notes are placed on the x and y makes for better z. Counterpoint in 12 tone. or Atonal music is just as essential, and a thousand-fold more variable and expressive.
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The word is climactic not climatic unless you meant to express stormy passages.
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Nice but strange!
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Analyzing this piece at school made me appreciate it even more. Masterpiece.
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@BlackEcology Not really. I'm a composer and I think about these things constantly. It's almost a pre-requisite I should have feelings about other composers one way or the other, if composers from the past are any example.
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@MaestroTJS you figure with that sort of patience level, you would have stopped commenting on youtube about trivial personal preferences, no?
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@AfroDeezeeYak As I alluded to previously, I understand the music perfectly well and much more than you are giving me credit for. That doesn't mean I'm obligated to like or respect it (beyond certain levels) or whatever. In fact, as time goes on, I have LESS patience for it (or for weak pre-twentieth century music, for that matter, of which I will say there is plenty).
But Happy Holidays/Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you also.
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@MaestroTJS As it is the holidays, I don't have the time or energy to respond to your thesis length comments.
All I have to say, is that once you become more educated in modern classical music, it will all make a ton of sense. It's okay: I myself started as someone who was openly contemptuous of music which succeeded the impressionists. We've all been there. Just remember: the layman isn't the best judge of what is great. Great artists aren't understood until later.
Happy holidays
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@AfroDeezeeYak If you think Higdon and Adams are writing consonant music, you obviously haven't listened to much of what they've done (especially Adams since the '90's). That's hardly my idea of consonant, or most people's.
People seem to forget that the masters of the past were writing music that was more related to the popular music of the time than is normally realized, but that it was more elevated, refined, and complex. Unfortunately, I don't think there is really a modern equivalent.
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@AfroDeezeeYak Yeah, they start from the past in the same way that people used to learn Latin. I fail to see the true purpose of it if they refuse to "allow" people to write in older styles, other than analysis. If you want to be a serialist, you really don't need to know earlier harmony in any meaningful way.
But tonal music is making a comeback....



there are only 3 or 4 composers that can get straight to my brain like that : Ravel, Moussorgsky, Prokofiev... and Bartok 8) he will never stop to amaze me. Nothing to do with it, but as my father was playing "mikrocosmos" on his piano when I was in my mother's belly, I'm bragging about the fact that I was brought up to this world with his music ^^ and after I was born playing those pieces was the only to make me stop crying XD... sorry for the personal rant... lol
injektileur 10 months ago 21
amorpaz: When I was young and deeply into Bartok, most of his music sounded to me extremely satisfying much the same way digging my hands into the dirt to plant seedlings felt. While he can write typically lyrical music of extreme tenderness, the 'beauty' I felt from Bartok most of all was its self-coherence, much like worms and centipedes and earwigs, while not exactly cute and cuddly, are perfectly part of the soil in which they burrow.
kenmeerlivermaile 8 months ago 16