Someone explain PUMAs for McCain

Please! Someone! Anyone!

How can you support Hillary and then support McCain? You know, outside of brain surgery.

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[timsr]

cool, you have a flag of germany in your room.

[duhduh666]

I wrote on the PUMA website that if they were real liberals who could not vote for Obama, they could vote for Cynthia McKinney of the Green Party or Ralph Nader. I suspect most of these women aren't democrat at all.

[KingTheist23]

From the beginning, and long before this election McCain has fought primarily about out of control spending, while Obamas primary argument is about fundamentally changing the way that we do things in D.C. I agree with both of these ideas, but cutting spending is a lot more plausible than convincing the majority of senators and representatives to cut off the very system that has made them rich and powerful.

[KingTheist23]

I think that you do not give believers enough credit. Just as it is the political extremes that we tend to see in McCain and Obama, it is the theological extremes that we tend to see in atheists, and theists. There are some things that I disagree with both Obama and McCain about and while I do not run in fear over the prospects of either candidate winning, I do think that if you look at the core of what they claim to stand for, McCains stance is a bit more realistic than Obamas.

[KingTheist23]

I am not left or right, I am simply me. On some issues I tend to agree with the conservative ideal such as keeping the government out of business as much as possible, reducing taxes, and keeping a strong military. However I also agree with the liberals on ideas like having a viable safety net, improving education, and anti-discrimination. On some issues I agree with neither, such as Gay marriage, regulation/deregulation, and abortion.

[morsec0de]

I said no such thing. I said you were biased. We're ALL biased. Yours just happened to pop out at me.

You're a Christian. It's almost by default that your bias is to the right.

[KingTheist23]

I know you likely assume that I am a right winger since I am a Christian, however I stand by my statement that neither the Democrats, nor Republicans are interested in truly cleaning up the system anyone who really thinks that Obama or McCain is truly going to change anything is deluding themselves. I hope I am wrong, but I doubt it.

[KingTheist23]

I also said that both were examples of the problem, not that one was better or worse than the other. The voting machines in question are not 100% faulty, or tampered with or whatever, they give somewhat erratic results, and not having to prove your eligibility does not meant that everyone who does not have an ID should not vote, but it does allow some to vote that should not (Illegal immigrants, etc.)

[morsec0de]

I like how you worded that KT. The voting machines are "somewhat erratic" and the Democrats want "people to be able to vote with out ANY proof".

Biased, much?

[KingTheist23]

One thing that I thought was downright scary, I registered to vote when I moved a couple of years ago, I filled out a form, handed it in, I did not show any ID at all, and I get my ballot in the mail every year, if that is not bad enough, every election I get people knocking at my door offering to fill out my ballot and mail it in for me. The worst part, is that if people did not let them actually do this, effectively stealing their vote, they would not be out there.