Martin Amis Christopher Hitchens a conversation about Antisemitism and Saul bellow Part 4

Martin Amis in conversation with Christopher Hitchens
Martin Amis talks to Christopher Hitchens about Saul Bellow with whom he developed an intimate friendship, about the role of the writer as intellectual, the threat of political correctness to the comic novel, Islam, Israel and horrorism.

Martin Amis is considered as one of the most influential and innovative voices in contemporary British fiction. He is the author of novels, short stories and essays. His most recent book is House of Meetings.

Christopher Hitchens left the UK for the US in 1981 where he is columnist and contributing editor at Vanity Fair. Both an atheist and anti-atheist, an iconoclast, anti-fascist and humanist, he was voted in 2005 fifth out of the worlds top one hundred public intellectuals.

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[Daoak28]

Hezbolla is an openly antisemitic organization. I agree that if they don't know what their placards say but you must wonder if people can be THAT ignorant.

[Chaos876]

How dare you even compare the two.

Palestinians are far from "victims", in fact a lot of them lead better lives than most Arabs ALL AROUND THE WORLD.

Try looking at the lives of people in Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon and so on. Try measuring their poverty against "Palestinian hardship" which isn't even close to what Jews had to bear throughout history in general (especially in Arab states), and prior and consecutively after the declaration of independence.

They'd have Jews dead if they could.

[johnbenjamin12]

God. These two Gentlemen are impeccable.

[QwidgyboMan]

@Chaos876

Palestinians are certainly victims, by any rational standard. Only an idiot tries to deny that by juxtaposing Jewish or Arabic suffering.

[dibaterman]

@Fukkutah

I've never tracked Jews in Muslim lands but I know the Coptic Pope or Patriarch was begging the Coptics that had left Egypt to return back and said essentially they must turn the other cheek in reference to the persecution they face.The copt's like the Arabs in the Philistines fail to realize they were conquered, they do have a right to fight back. I just wish America would either get out of there or pick a bloody side and support that one.

Point though is that Copts are persecuted.

[Chaos876]

@llewohnewo

No, not all Palestinians want Jews dead. But the vast majority is convinced if all Jews were dead the world would have been an easier place to live in. Mind you, so do many Jews about Arabs.

Education system is brainwashing children (look it up if you don't believe me), population is a prisoner of their leaders who take advantage of their poverty and direct their rage on the "enemy", while they could quite easily just prosper. They choose to be filled with hatred, instead of living.

[llewohnewo]

@Chaos876

Actually, no. You have no evidence to say all Palestinians want Jews dead. Palestines are vistims: at least 4 times as many Palestinians have died as a result of the Palestine/ Israel conflict. Jews have suffered terribly, but that cannot justify what's happening in Palestine.

[Fukkutah]

Jews weren't persecuted in Muslim lands. Jews in Egypt, Iran, Turkey, Syria, Morocco, Tunisia, Bahrain, Yemen etc enjoyed an elitist life similar to how they lived/live in America and Europe of today. Once Israel was created on stolen lands of Palestine over a massacred Palestinian population, those Jews sided with their aggressor brethren and most left to their "promised land". The ones who remained still enjoy the status that average Muslims in their own country can only dream of.

[Daoak28]

Amazing,

In your own statement you exposed your ignorance.

"Jews in Muslim lands, however small minority,are represented in Parliaments."

Why are jews such a small minority? Because most of them fled to Israel after persecution from muslims in muslims countries. It is actually in Israel that muslims and christians palestinians are represented in the parliament. They say things on the knesset floor that if jews said in any muslim country they would be hanged and have been hanged for.

[Fukkutah]

Obviously you know very little about the details of the conflict in the Middle East and attempting to turn this into a personal matter, or you're purposely spinning the facts. Muslims and Christians in Palestine suffer tremendously under the same Zionist supremacist policies. A great number of Christians, as well as Muslims have left Palestine to North/South America and Europe to escape Jewish persecution. Jews in Muslim lands, however small minority, are represented in Parliaments. RESEARCH!

[Daoak28]

No point in arguing with you. For you any jew or christian that has equal rights and self determination is an abomination. While the palestinian population grows tremendously you cry genocide and while the middle east is 99.9% controlled by muslims who treat jews, christains, bahais and others as second class citizens you scream aparthied and discrimination. You're a joke.