I'm not saying it isn't true. I'm saying that you're misinterpreting it. You don't think the psalms or song of songs or the parables of Jesus are literal history. Even if it doesn't say "this is a metaphor" you infer that it is because of the type of literature it is. The same analysis needs to be applied to Genesis. What kind of literature is it? In ancient cultures it was very common to have creation stories that explained how order came out of chaos. Genesis is clearly in this genre.
@Daytimeofnight start judging what you hear by what God tells us in His word! No revelation will ever under any circumstances conflict what the word of God has already revealed in His written word. And if it does then we are to reject it! What you say crosses what God says so your comments are rejected and if anyone believes the filth you are saying let this be a warning that there is no scripture to prove your veiw! And don't receive it as truth!!!
@Daytimeofnight You seemed to be confused on just exactly what faith is, and friend God is not the author of confusion. Your comments conflict with what the Bible teaches. Basically you mixed up thinking man's thoughts are more true than the Bible and you can not back anything you said so far with scripture, at all! Show me the scriptures to prove what you believe is correct and we will have more to talk about, but you won't, because it is not there. If you heard it preached then you better...
@Daytimeofnight Science leaves too many questions or holes if you will. Genesis is part of every Christian's heritage, so for you to discredit it as not being truth questions rather or not the whole Bible can be trusted, which is what Satan would want! All scripture is inspired from God you either chose to believe it or you don't! You don't get to chose which parts you want to believe and not believe! It doesn't work that way. You either put your faith in God all the way or you waver on science!
@Daytimeofnight You are right about two kinds of revelation, but if a person is beyond the word of God then he is out too far! Don't leave the word of God to follow what you think is the Holy Spirit. It won't work! You'll be a realm where Satan can decieve you. Putting the word first will always keep you scriptually balanced so you don't open yourself up doctrinally to Satan's deceptions. The problem with going with science is it is based on man's thoughts and not God's word!
@movinglove: God has given us two kinds of revelation: special revelation in Scripture and general revelation in the world around us. We can study both to learn about him. When the 2 sources appear to give us conflicting answers, it behooves us to ask whether we may be misinterpreting one of them. Multiple streams of scientific study demonstrate that Genesis is not to be read as a history book. Your viewpoint makes God out to be a deceiver planting all sorts of misleading evidence in nature.
@movinglove: Paul is drawing an analogy between a 1st Adam and a 2nd Adam. The NT writers frequently refer to OT characters to elucidate a point. And I'm sure Paul thought of Adam as a real historical figure because he had no reason to think otherwise. But that tells us nothing of whether Adam was a real historical figure. Population genetics make it abundantly clear that the human population could not possibly have consisted of only 2 people within the last 10,000 years.
@Daytimeofnight Rom. 5:18 satates "Adam" is the reason why everyone suffers condemnation. You don't know the Bible very well and you need to do some more studying! 5:19 says because Adam disobeyed many became sinners! Next time you accuse of Christians looking silly which I could care less what the world thinks of me, maybe come up with a different plan that won't make you look so silly!
@Daytimeofnight Well it sounds like you are confused my friend and yes I know it stood still for Joshua, because God sais it did! I also believe that the walls came tumbling down at Jerico and that the God parted the Red Sea, and that all the healings that Jesus did as He walked the earth took place also. And If you don't believe in it as well, then you don't believe in the Bible, And you are not a child of God! Sin entered the world by "Adam" it says so in Rom. 5:12.
@movinglove: Are you in need of salvation only because Adam sinned? I suspect you believe that you need salvation because you have sinned too. Thus, I don't need Adam to have sinned (or existed) in order to be a sinner in need of a savior. I'm in need of redemption, regardless of what my ancestors have done. I'm not taking issue with the "truth" of God's word. I'm taking issue with the narrow hyperliteralist interpretation you are giving it. Do you think that the sun stood still for Joshua?
I'm not saying it isn't true. I'm saying that you're misinterpreting it. You don't think the psalms or song of songs or the parables of Jesus are literal history. Even if it doesn't say "this is a metaphor" you infer that it is because of the type of literature it is. The same analysis needs to be applied to Genesis. What kind of literature is it? In ancient cultures it was very common to have creation stories that explained how order came out of chaos. Genesis is clearly in this genre.
Daytimeofnight 2 years ago
@Daytimeofnight start judging what you hear by what God tells us in His word! No revelation will ever under any circumstances conflict what the word of God has already revealed in His written word. And if it does then we are to reject it! What you say crosses what God says so your comments are rejected and if anyone believes the filth you are saying let this be a warning that there is no scripture to prove your veiw! And don't receive it as truth!!!
movinglove 2 years ago
@Daytimeofnight You seemed to be confused on just exactly what faith is, and friend God is not the author of confusion. Your comments conflict with what the Bible teaches. Basically you mixed up thinking man's thoughts are more true than the Bible and you can not back anything you said so far with scripture, at all! Show me the scriptures to prove what you believe is correct and we will have more to talk about, but you won't, because it is not there. If you heard it preached then you better...
movinglove 2 years ago
@Daytimeofnight Science leaves too many questions or holes if you will. Genesis is part of every Christian's heritage, so for you to discredit it as not being truth questions rather or not the whole Bible can be trusted, which is what Satan would want! All scripture is inspired from God you either chose to believe it or you don't! You don't get to chose which parts you want to believe and not believe! It doesn't work that way. You either put your faith in God all the way or you waver on science!
movinglove 2 years ago
@Daytimeofnight You are right about two kinds of revelation, but if a person is beyond the word of God then he is out too far! Don't leave the word of God to follow what you think is the Holy Spirit. It won't work! You'll be a realm where Satan can decieve you. Putting the word first will always keep you scriptually balanced so you don't open yourself up doctrinally to Satan's deceptions. The problem with going with science is it is based on man's thoughts and not God's word!
movinglove 2 years ago
@movinglove: God has given us two kinds of revelation: special revelation in Scripture and general revelation in the world around us. We can study both to learn about him. When the 2 sources appear to give us conflicting answers, it behooves us to ask whether we may be misinterpreting one of them. Multiple streams of scientific study demonstrate that Genesis is not to be read as a history book. Your viewpoint makes God out to be a deceiver planting all sorts of misleading evidence in nature.
Daytimeofnight 2 years ago
@movinglove: Paul is drawing an analogy between a 1st Adam and a 2nd Adam. The NT writers frequently refer to OT characters to elucidate a point. And I'm sure Paul thought of Adam as a real historical figure because he had no reason to think otherwise. But that tells us nothing of whether Adam was a real historical figure. Population genetics make it abundantly clear that the human population could not possibly have consisted of only 2 people within the last 10,000 years.
Daytimeofnight 2 years ago
@Daytimeofnight Rom. 5:18 satates "Adam" is the reason why everyone suffers condemnation. You don't know the Bible very well and you need to do some more studying! 5:19 says because Adam disobeyed many became sinners! Next time you accuse of Christians looking silly which I could care less what the world thinks of me, maybe come up with a different plan that won't make you look so silly!
movinglove 2 years ago
@Daytimeofnight Well it sounds like you are confused my friend and yes I know it stood still for Joshua, because God sais it did! I also believe that the walls came tumbling down at Jerico and that the God parted the Red Sea, and that all the healings that Jesus did as He walked the earth took place also. And If you don't believe in it as well, then you don't believe in the Bible, And you are not a child of God! Sin entered the world by "Adam" it says so in Rom. 5:12.
movinglove 2 years ago
@movinglove: Are you in need of salvation only because Adam sinned? I suspect you believe that you need salvation because you have sinned too. Thus, I don't need Adam to have sinned (or existed) in order to be a sinner in need of a savior. I'm in need of redemption, regardless of what my ancestors have done. I'm not taking issue with the "truth" of God's word. I'm taking issue with the narrow hyperliteralist interpretation you are giving it. Do you think that the sun stood still for Joshua?
Daytimeofnight 2 years ago