Brownback on the 2nd Amendment

Brownback, who enjoys a lifetime "A" rating from the NRA, talks about his support of the 2nd Amendment at a gun show in Des Moines, Iowa.

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[thecleanerification]

Brownback licks balls..all the time..

[eslake]

Don't you love how the morons For gun control try to claim the 2nd ammendment wasn't about individuals, but governmental law enforcement.

If that were the intent, why would it even be an ammedment? Were they afraid the government would disarm ITSELF?

Besides, other literature by the founding fathers make it clear (as if it weren't clear in the 2nd ammendment) that it IS for the individual citizens!

[OnGuard4Liberty]

"ought not to be permitted to keep arms" --

RKBA is clearly protected in the 2Am both from the onstruction of the amendment and from what the writers said it meant. You disagree w/ the founders. Fine, try to pass an amendment and if enough ppl agree w/ your anti-human rights view, it'll pass

"Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can" -- Sam Adams

[Commando303X]

You need to not read what's not there: I never construed "well-regulated" to mean "government-run."

Our nation is protected from threat not by armed citizens' forming a militia but by an over-funded, extremely powerful government military. For the most part, "the people," I believe, ought not to be permitted to keep arms.

[OnGuard4Liberty]

You also need to look up some words that have changed in meaning since the late 18th century

"well-regulated" doesn't mean government-run. It literally means "well functioning"

"Militia" does not mean professional military force (at least not to the founders). If you're a male between the ages of 16 and 45, YOU ARE IN THE "MILITIA!"

George Mason, Father of The Bill of Rights, said: "I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few public officials."

[OnGuard4Liberty]

The fact is, the meaning of the clause still isn't changed.

In fact, in Article I, Section 8, the Constitution has another similar construction with regards to granting copyrights. It starts "to promote the progress of science and the useful arts,..."

If your interpretation of the 2nd Amendment was true, then Congress wouldn't have power to give people who right books not useful to "science and the useful arts" a copyright. Howard Stern would never have been able to publish his book!

[Commando303X]

I "don't history"? Preach that grammar, you assclown. If you say, "the teacher being sick to-day, class is canceled," your obvious implication (obvious to people with working brains) is, class is canceled to-day BECAUSE the teacher is sick.

[OnGuard4Liberty]

If you don't believe RKBA is the individual right that the writers SAY it is, you don't history or BASIC GRAMMAR! The first clause is an ablative absolute which changes nothing about the meaning of the second clause

If one were to say, "The teacher being sick today, class is canceled," whether or not the teacher is sick makes no difference. Class is canceled. In the same way, no matter if we need a militia or not, the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Period

[Commando303X]

Here's the Second Amendment speaking for itself: "A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." "The people," in our reality, are not, by any means, the militia needed to secure a free state. I'm likely not what one might consider "a strict Constitutionalist," but, as I see it, people running around with guns isn't even protected by the Bill of Rights.

[OnGuard4Liberty]

John Adams said what the 2nd Amendment is about:

"Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Three reasons = self defense, being ready for the NEXT time the government needs overthrown, and defense of the nation in case of invasion. Interestingly, the Japanese chose to bomb Hawaii, rather than invade off of the West coast BECAUSE they feared an armed resistance.