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Beyond Belief (eeeteee No Grunt Symphonic Edit) - Epica

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Uploaded by on Oct 3, 2007

An unofficial No Grunt Edit Symphonic Version of an Epica masterpiece. This was generated using SoundForge and MuVee autoProducer in an attempt to remove/replace grunts whenever possible (sorry Mark!). I made this for symphonic metal fans who are on the fence with the dark metal grunts.

Epica, please edit/release two official versions of your albums ... one symphonic/dark metal and one symphonic metal to appeal to both camps and it will definitely extend your fan base.

Grunts are fine ... but they have released no grunt alternate versions in the past ... Let the controversy begin ...

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  • I agree. Most of epica's music speaks truth of life. Anyone who thinks different is in denial and blind!

  • Please do more edits like this, the grunting/graaah sounds occasionally add a cool counterpoint, but often detract.

    Honestly, its that kind of "grunting" and harsh toned male voice 'yelling' that drives me away from the 'harder' metal.

    And yes, Epica could learn something from the (fairly infrequent) lines Marco (NW) has, and how he does them.

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  • Well, I like Epica just the way they are. I listened to this version just to see what its like and it was weird for me. But good job though.

  • This is kind of a bait for flaming, but I really hate Mark's voice. I like a lot of "metalcore" type bands, with screaming, growling and "grunting" (I hate that word btw) throughout, but I don't like Mark's voice at all. It's weak, squeaky, raspy, and just awful sounding. It almost ruins a lot of parts of Epica's otherwise intense and beautiful songs. Epica isn't the only band to have a bad male vocalist though, Lacuna Coil's male singer is pretty bad as well. PS Thank you for making this!

  • @TheDeathWatcher oh, how thorougly I agree with you.....

  • @karimds Actually not all of the grunts were, I said comes OFF not well trained I didnt say he has no experience. He costs usually he's good but by far not the best I don't think up to Simone's skill level. To try to correct me about when he started has nothing to do with how he sounds.... I never said he isn't skilled in his own right, but I don't think he comes off equal level to simone.

  • not well trained?? a real grunter never have other training than the experience, that he gain when sings,... and mark sings grunts from 1995.... that is experience!.... and let me correct you.... Design your universe grunts were made by mark! jajaj the "other guys" only sing in the concerts... so, if you like those grunts, you like mark's grunts... (sorry for my english)  :)

  • @RicoLen1 Tides of times, and Memory

  • @soyelfeno I agree how can you compare Gothic alternative rock with Operatic soprano metal? Whether a person likes both or not they are different genre different style and different octave of vocals. Therefore any comparison is invalid cause it's like comparing a car with a tv......

  • @karimds Really? Mark is not a great grunter he comes off squeaky and not well trained. He is a good song writer and decent grunter but not incredible. I think the grunting of the other guys was far better on DYOU.....

  • @KnightOfHerHearts Grunts were on Cry for the Moon, Phantom Agony to name a few, also Simone sings on most of them--all the songs that were written by Epica.

  • Wow, I never realized how vital the grunts were until I heard this. This is way less fulfilling.

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