Separation of Church and Texas

Rick Perry is destroying the nation!
Or...something. I dunno.

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[CobraJones]

@Godbreaker15 First, fuck you.

Second, if having someone in power talking to an invisible man in the sky is a bad idea, then we're royally screwed, cuz almost everyone in power talks to invisible people.

Third, I'm not a liberal.

And finally, fuck you again.

[TheTruePooka]

He's using the power and celebrity of his office to push the event without which he would be getting no media attention.

He also called for "Fellow Governors" to join him.

I think it is very clear that he's crossed over the line of abusing his his power as governor to push a specific religious oriented event and endorsing groups that are habitually discriminatory all (likely) in the interest of pursuing a presidential primary bid.

[2dogarage]

Disagree. He's using the popularity of public office to advance a religious agenda. As governor he is no longer Joe Citizen. If he was he wouldn't ride around in a bullet-proof chauffeur-driven limousine paid for by the fine people of Texas.

[christo930]

@TheTruePooka So what? Lot's of Americans ask the leadership to pray. He's an American citizen and as long as he isn't doing this through the governors office, what is the big deal? I am as much as an anti-theist as you, but I don't want to turn our country into an atheistic nation and am quite happy with a secular nation.

[CobraJones]

@migkillertwo So...just checking...religious liberty isn't inherent to the idea of liberty?

[TheTruePooka]

@Godbreaker15 I wouldn't see it that way (defending the enemy). There is definitely a grey area here that Perry is gleefully playing with. It leaves room for debate and the expressing of opposing views. On an issue like this I enjoy dissenting opinions.

"tread not lightly where issues of free speech are concerned."

Btw CJ, I'm doing a response to this - assuming my bloody camera just recorded everything I said fifteen minutes ago and I didn't end up just talking to a blinking light.

[synchronium24]

@TheTruePooka "using his power as governor to push a specific religious oriented event"

exactly, it's kinda fucking impossible for a governor to act in his capacity as a citizen, consider he is viewed as a governor first by most people. I could be wrong, but i don't think the issue of state resources that Cobra brought up is the only test. He's still promoting something religious through the government.

[Queekitch]

@LatumWay Depends on what you mean by "liberal" I suppose.

the term has a lot of meanings. It has "classical liberal" (old style free market type), social liberal (lefty), neoliberal (new style free market type) etc. etc.

GB15 says that he disagrees with neoliberals in his video, so I think he's saying that CJ is a neoliberal, not that he's a left-winger.

[LatumWay]

@CobraJones You are kindof a liberal.

[migkillertwo]

@CobraJones One can still have the freedom to worship or not worship however one wants if there is an official state religion. In Israel, you have the right to be a Christian or Muslim but the official state religion is Judaism. Teaching creationism or giving churches tax exemptions does not violate your fundamental right to choose your religion. A state religion may lead to this down the road, but it itself does not infringe on your rights. Hence, it is not inherent to the concept of liberty.

[CobraJones]

@Godbreaker15 Just for you, by the way: /watch?v=NdAFwTq-MNk

[HiltownJoe]

@TheTruePooka

That would be true if the Governorship would be separated from the person the Governor is.

But if that was the case we also could not demand a Governor to step down from his office if he cheats on his wife with his 18 year old intern.

The point is that we expect celebrities to use their status to do good. The Governor believes that praying is a good thing, therefore asking people to pray is a good thing. Therefore I expect him to do so. Even as an atheist.