M7 Conference - Challenges to the Nazarene Denomination
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I am so tired of denominational doctrine
church "leaders" who tell you that they have "no sin in their lives"
I left the nazarene church because it seemed that men were praised more than Jesus
We are all born into sin folks and I will be truly sanctified the day I meet my Savior
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The better question is what Bible are YOU reading? Didn't you read the verses in my entry above? Are denominations more important than following what God's Word says? You seem to be held up with women carrying most of the responsibilities. I don't know what you are talking about. Women have very special functions in the Church, just not leadership. Man is the head of woman, as Christ is the head of the Church. What do you mean "jude and jury". Again, read what I wrote above.
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I attended a Nazarene church for 9 years and was a local minister there. I respectfully disagree with lumping Calvinism in the same category as the Emergent Church. Calvinism still falls within the realm of orthodox Christian faith. Nazarenes may not agree with Reformed theology, but these are our brothers and sisters in Christ. We need to focus more on JESUS.
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OK I listened to the audio. This is a typical purpose driven vision casting sermon. I also listened to Oliver Phillips. What a train wreck. His involuntary noises and constant repetition were remeniscent of TBN style preachers. He laughed away the fact that he wasn't preaching from a text but was preaching his own words. Shameful. Completely shameful.
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btw yes there is a link to the entire video in the description.
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@GenevaPilgrim That's because Nazarenes are more about moralism than the gospel. Same with Rick Warren. He's right up their alley!
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@ReformedEvangelist glutton for punishment aren't you?
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Wonder if women pastors is one of those challenges...?
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Apparently Calvinism is bigger challenge than female pastors. #fail
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Is there somewhere we can listen to this entire talk? I'd really love to check it out!
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I think the Naz church will be split in 10 years or less.
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You need to really read up this. EC pastors have said, "there is no hell"...they have said, "heaven is not a place". They believe in a Buddist, esoteric theology that is plain and simple, heretical. I agree with you about helping the hurting, giving the cold glass of water to the needy. However I will never subscribe to EC doctrine. We must "test the spirits." I have, and they are not from God.
my mom was a nazerene pastor until she went to treveca to work on her masters degree. she converted to catholicism and left my dad to become a nun. they did not accept her and now me and my brother live with my dad. i went to church with her once, but i dont get it. it was boring.
CurlyDeb86 4 years ago
Is that a joke? If your mom really did leave your dad to become a nun, she probably had trouble because she left her family. The Catholic Church (as opposed to Catholics like the Kennedy's) seems to be the only one that takes marriage vows seriously. There is no room for reinterpreting the family. Sorry for the bore, but if you are looking for fun then stay with the CON.
PantheistBoots 4 years ago
Pantheist, you've had some excellent posts in the past. This one falls somewhat short of the standard you have set for yourself. I think you minced your words. Take out "seems to be" and insert "is". I think that is what you really believe. And, I think that is incorrect.
aVisionaryMystic 4 years ago
con't to Pantheist: By the way, Jesus reinterpreted family. Regarding "fun": you make it sound pejorative. It is possible for fun to be a part of even the most deeply authentic Christian worship experience. Avoiding fun is disingenuous. Why do we assemble for mass and/or worship? To CELEBRATE the RESURRECTION. That should be the most joy-filled and fun time of the week.
aVisionaryMystic 4 years ago
CurlyDeb, I am sorry to hear for your loss. I am sure that was painful. It is understandable that you wouldn't "get it". There are many things going on during mass that, unless previously instructed, would make little sense. I trust all is well now. If not, feel free to send me a message on here.
aVisionaryMystic 4 years ago