Brideshead Revisited (1981): Catholicism (religion) ruins another happy occasion

Julia Flyte (Diana Quick) and Rex Mottram (Charles Keating) are enjoying some of the wedding presents they have received when Julia's brother, Lord Brideshead (Simon Jones), informs them that the wedding must be canceled due to the draconian rules of catholicism---the arbitrary rules of a game that Catholics (like followers of any religion) have imposed upon themselves.

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• brideshead revisited
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• lord brideshead
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[Dauphin35]

@capitainehaddoque The church holds that the moral law is distinct from revelation and is fully accessible to reason. The church regards its public role as being for the purification of reason in order to direct it to the discovery of objective moral norms.

[capitainehaddoque]

@Dauphin35 the moral law you recur to could only be upheld with mobbing, ostracism, persecution, terror and torture. You should have learned that there's no moral monopoly, and that it shence immoral to argue morally from a from a morale that doesn't exist. All religions have their value in guiding people to be self-critical despite their logically innate setbacks, but they become methods of mental violence once they claim to take a place they don't deserve: the moral law itself.

[Dauphin35]

Why should an invalid marriage be considered a "happy occasion"?

A marriage which isn't conformed to the moral law isn't a happy thing.

[heirofsalazar]

@VanillaSwirlsOfDoom How do you know I'm not Jewish?

Watch Dr. Dean Edell's (Jewish) video against circumcision: video google com/videoplay?docid=-539556525­6830319025#

Mariam Pollock (Jewish) speak against circumcision: youtube com/watch?v=HfnqN3YgTd8

jewishcircumcision org/

jewsagainstcircumcision org/

You're willfully ignorant; very few men are going to talk to anybody about their penises---especially how they are angry about a highly valued ritual in your culture.

Read a forum or two.

[heirofsalazar]

@VanillaSwirlsOfDoom There are men without legs who actually climb mountains; however, they are still mising useful parts.

The tissue that is amputated from a healthy boy's penis is pleasurable and protective; he can still perform a sex act, but he's also still missing useful parts---the specialized tissue that was taken away from him without his consent.

If anything, the real issue is the lack of consent and the despicable trauma.

[VanillaSwirlsOfDoom]

@heirofsalazar responding, since I think you don't know what you're talking about. Also the book is about a dysfunctional family of Catholics who Waugh has written such a tragic story about, because they're not being Catholics the right way. As in, they're doing it wrong, and twisting their religion to serve their various vices. Waugh had no problem with the religion he celebrated and converted to and the ending has a very Catholic-strong message.

[VanillaSwirlsOfDoom]

@heirofsalazar a few Jewish guys who did themselves. I don't even know one. Who are you to speak about this? You don't know what it's like, I assume.

f) I'm not talking about a cultural custom, I'm talking about a religious one. Cakes have no place in a discussion of circumcision.

g) I didn't post here to have my religion put under attack by a bigot, I posted to tell you that you are wrong about Brideshead Revisited. If you're going to continue to put my religion under attack, I'm going to stop

[VanillaSwirlsOfDoom]

@heirofsalazar If a Jew's sexuality is seriously tied down, it's more likely because he or she is Orthodox, and practicing Shomer Negiah.

d) I don't know any Jewish guys that have a problem with the fact that they were circumcised. None of them complain about their sex lives, or the "cult" "blood ritual" they experienced as babies - a time they can't remember anyway.

e) I do respect my brother, and a lot of the other guys I know. I'd have a much bigger problem with the bris if I actually knew a

[VanillaSwirlsOfDoom]

@heirofsalazar ... Anyway, you need something a little more significant/relevant than the fact that only 30% of the world does it, because in reality 30% of the world is a lot of people, many of whom live normal and moral lives. So what's the point you're making?

c) Again, proportion. Cutting up? Jeez this isn't the Texas chainsaw massacre, it's a little bit of skin, and believe me I know a good any sexually active Jewish guys, and their sexuality is not hindered by the bris ceremony. If a Jew's

[VanillaSwirlsOfDoom]

@heirofsalazar a) Maimonides may have said that, but he was a commentator, not one of the people who wrote down the original Torah. Not everything he said is international Jewish doctrine, although he is a very respected man.

b) Most of the world isn't gay. Does that make being gay backward or immoral? And before you go and explode about religious views of homosexuality, you can stop with me and the majority of conservative and reform Jews who are for the most part very pro Gay Rights. Anyway,