Skeptics challenge Copenhagen global warming summit 8th 12th 09.

Skeptics challenge Copenhagen global warming summit


On the second day of the UN climate change conference in Copenhagen, a group of skeptics is meeting in the Danish capital to counterbalance the main event.

The group has laid down the gauntlet to the intergovernmental panel on climate change, saying that: if is the world is warming because of manmade factors, if the glaciers are melting and the sea level is going to rise then prove it using the science you have come up with and we will counter it with our science.

The purpose of the forum is to reach a political agreement to cut global emissions on greenhouse gas by 2020. The major sticking point is the role poor countries will play and how they will purchase the new technologies needed to cut emissions.

There is still time to strike a deal, as the conference will last for another couple of weeks, but some are not in the Danish capital to support the deal.



Professor Cliff Ollier, a Professor of Geology from the University of Western Australia who focuses on ice caps and glaciers, came to Copenhagen to have his say on the connection between glaciers and the rising sea level.

The whole mechanism of glacial flow has nothing to do with the rising temperature or carbon dioxide, says the professor.

Lord Christopher Monckton is yet another one of the skeptics. He has been talking to the delegates to think again about the facts surrounding climate change.

What I am already doing is talking to individual delegations here in Copenhagen and saying to them: Look, whatever pressure you are under from your environmental groups and your younger people and your governments, pay heed to the science and not the propaganda, except that there is no climate problem caused by humankind and go home without any agreement, stresses Monckton. In particular, dont you dare set up a world government or anything like it and dont you dare to impose worldwide rationing and taxing in trading, because that would amount to the biggest tax in human history and we do not want that, he says.

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[Culture261]

Have to admit god has a cool sense of humour. Theres a blizzard going on in copenhagen while they huddle inside with sweaters to discuss global warming.

[Thisawareness]

Green is the new Red

Lorne Gunter, National Post

The decade just past marked the transition from red to green. It was the decade in which environmentalism replaced socialism as the authoritarians ideology of choice.  Why are so few environmentalists truly unhappy about the failure at Copenhagen?

Because saving the planet is not what environmentalism is all about. Saving the planet is just the excuse. Controlling other people's lives and redistributing global wealth is the true goal

[loloioi]

THIS GUY ISN'T EVEN SPECIALIZED IN CLIMATE SCIENCE! BULL SHIT

[Thisawareness]

@TheElastic,

Please take a look at my page links & especially the link under "Gore financial incentive" after reading that report, watch the video I have up on my page. What a liar & scam

TY for the positive comments, I couldn't agree

more!

[TheElasticJesus]

@Thisawareness

Couldn't agree more my friend. Irrespective of badge colour its still the same old crew that ru(i)ns this planet.

Global warming or not, inventors should be allowed to sell their products without monopolists like G&S saying 'no can do' cos it will upset the guys down at the Lodge.

My idea of capitalism is that we're all allowed to have a go. Unfortunately some products - like fuel - are the Holy Grail of the temple. We can look but we cannot touch.

[Thisawareness]

@TheElastic, More importantly, the bankers, the hereditary enemy of the working/middleclass, to be more specific, Goldman Sachs!

Imagine having a former Ceo of Goldman Sachs as a Secretary of the Treasury during the Bank Bailout with Taxpayer money!

Goldman Sachs & the bankers have always been the enemy!

Period!

[TheElasticJesus]

@Thisawareness

Whoever said I was a supporter of Al Gore?

Im afraid I dont do 'corpocracy' no matter what colour the badge.

My argument stands.

What chance has the small time Joe with a bright idea against any of these dinosaurs?

My idea of conservative is 'freedom to compete.'

The corporate idea is "shut the fuck up, buy OUR goods - OR ELSE!"

Either way - irrespective of Bush, Gore, whoever - Oil still wears the trousers in the Senate.

Period.

[Thisawareness]

You mean "Corporate oil swilling dinosaurs" like Gore & his Goldman Sachs shyster business partners

FYI & all my other friends, when the AGW Cultists try to use the false "oil lobby ties" bring up Gore's ties to Occidental Petroleum & more importantly, Gore's ties to Kleiner-Perkins & Kleiner-Perkins ties to the Oil Drilling Co., Terralliance (with Goldman Sachs also of course)

TERRALLIANCE

[TheElasticJesus]

Wot a load of crap.

There are some God fearing capitalists out there who would genuinely like to create wealth were it not for the fact that a few CORPORATE oil swilling dinosaurs want to keep things exactly as they are.

From Congress to Houses of Parliament they try & veto every means & spend millions on flash campaigns discounting everything green.

If I could put a windmill in my backyard & get free power I should be free to do so.

To hell with corporate utilities.

[MikkkkyB]

Yes you're right! Fossil fuel companies have a lot to make out of this bogus scare! So when someone says "they're funded by oil" you know that they're bedwetters.

[KingDingaLing090]

Ah ah ah ah ah ah ah a

You said warm-mongers. ; )