Do everyone just see this as a story about the man that is actually on the back, sure it's called man on the back. But the story is equally about the man who is carrying. Sure it is with that message about people who dont do anything. But it feels like it will encourage prejudice against people who arent like him but are unemployed or disabled. I think its very interesting to see the story about extreme codependency on both ends in this short film.
@Kharesh In my first comment, I said that satires don't need to be funny and you answered by saying that most good satires are. That describes your opinion only and is not a part of any rational definition of what can be called a satire, thus not effecting my first comment.
You can't mix your own opinions of what is good and what not with definitions of concepts - And you don't just walk up to random law students and try to teach them about definitions or interpretations of the written word. :)
Hi @Kharesh, I've read A Modest Proposal more than once and I fully stand by what I said. More than that, the Wikipedia quote is a good definition of the concept, it was correctly quoted by me and not taken out of context.
What I pointed out, and you failed to take in, is that the word 'usually' has to be interpreted in the way that although satires are funny in general, humor is not necessary for something to be called a satire.
@dgunnar So satire is usually meant to be funny, but "isn't part of the definition". You have no idea what satire actually is if you seriously take this to be the case, or else you seriously think people won't take it as seriously just because it's funny too. Read "A Modest Proposal" for an example of something scathingly sharp but screamingly funny. It's one of the defining works of Satire, and it might teach you more than trying to be a Wikipedia misquoter ever will.
@Kharesh From Wikipedia: "In satire, vices, follies, abuses, and shortcomings are held up to ridicule, ideally with the intent of shaming individuals, and society itself, into improvement. Although satire is usually meant to be funny, its greater purpose is constructive social criticism, using wit as a weapon."
Emphasizing "usually", as humour is not a presupposition of the concept. Not all satire is funny and judging a satire by that is a matter of your opinion but not a part of the definition.
very strange but good as well
jhb6991esrep 1 month ago
Do everyone just see this as a story about the man that is actually on the back, sure it's called man on the back. But the story is equally about the man who is carrying. Sure it is with that message about people who dont do anything. But it feels like it will encourage prejudice against people who arent like him but are unemployed or disabled. I think its very interesting to see the story about extreme codependency on both ends in this short film.
BestaTonlistin 5 months ago
though i do understand the moral of this story, i can't help but to absorb the beautiful landscapes and language of iceland :)
kaitlynayates 6 months ago
I laughed every time he said "Þú ert heppinn" ("You're lucky").
Extremely funny.
gzur 1 year ago
@Kharesh In my first comment, I said that satires don't need to be funny and you answered by saying that most good satires are. That describes your opinion only and is not a part of any rational definition of what can be called a satire, thus not effecting my first comment.
You can't mix your own opinions of what is good and what not with definitions of concepts - And you don't just walk up to random law students and try to teach them about definitions or interpretations of the written word. :)
dgunnar 1 year ago
Hi @Kharesh, I've read A Modest Proposal more than once and I fully stand by what I said. More than that, the Wikipedia quote is a good definition of the concept, it was correctly quoted by me and not taken out of context.
What I pointed out, and you failed to take in, is that the word 'usually' has to be interpreted in the way that although satires are funny in general, humor is not necessary for something to be called a satire.
dgunnar 1 year ago
@dgunnar So satire is usually meant to be funny, but "isn't part of the definition". You have no idea what satire actually is if you seriously take this to be the case, or else you seriously think people won't take it as seriously just because it's funny too. Read "A Modest Proposal" for an example of something scathingly sharp but screamingly funny. It's one of the defining works of Satire, and it might teach you more than trying to be a Wikipedia misquoter ever will.
Kharesh 1 year ago
@Kharesh From Wikipedia: "In satire, vices, follies, abuses, and shortcomings are held up to ridicule, ideally with the intent of shaming individuals, and society itself, into improvement. Although satire is usually meant to be funny, its greater purpose is constructive social criticism, using wit as a weapon."
Emphasizing "usually", as humour is not a presupposition of the concept. Not all satire is funny and judging a satire by that is a matter of your opinion but not a part of the definition.
dgunnar 1 year ago
@dgunnar Most good satire is funny.
Kharesh 1 year ago
Brilliant ! Algjör snilld. Vá hvað ég kannast vid þessa týpu
stefansson 1 year ago