Charles Ives - Symphony No. 3 "The Camp Meeting" [1/3] [480p]

Charles Ives, Symphony No. 3 "The Camp Meeting".

"Old Folks Gatherin'".

James Sinclair, Conductor.
Northern Sinfonia.


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[IFStravinsky]

The added material at the end is known as a "shadow lines'" and apparently Ives couldn't make up his mind about them. He wrote them them in the score originally, then deleted them, then added them again and finally made them optional. Every recent recording I know of uses them, although Jan Swafford, in his biography of Ives, regards them as completely illegitimate, and I can't fathom why. He actually gets angry when he writes about them.

[ThomasLigre]

@IFStravinsky

thanks for this valuable information!

[opuspocus5553]

Thanks! So which version came first? The one seen or the one heard?

[ThomasLigre]

@opuspocus5553

I don't know currently, but I do a search and I tell you!

[ThomasLigre]

@opuspocus5553

Ok, the score is the last version! James Sinclair has taken a middle road alternating the original with other versions

[opuspocus5553]

wonderful! is the version showed a different version than the one being performed? the end shows this most clearly. i'm completely knew to ives, so itd be nice to know if he was prone to edit his work extensively enough to add completely new material which seems evident by the last few measures

[ThomasLigre]

@opuspocus5553

Yes, it's different! Unfortunately I only had this score and I like the Sinclair performance, so... I reached a compromise! :)

I think it is also interesting to note the differences in the reading score...!

[LongDriveChamp03]

There are good composers, great composers and there is Charles Ives :)

[JustinTanner1964]

Sounds like Roy Harris

[harryslide]

Where are the 2nd and 3rd mvmts? Many thanks for this post!

Swafford is a great guy and excellent writer/musician/composer, but I wonder if ...?

Well, I don't know why either.

What is the best recording of this, pray tell?

Thanks again!

[douglasmatley]

Thank you for providing score. Always interested how Ives did it. D. Alexandr D'Maddalena