Palestine 1896

First film footage taken in Palestine (Lumier Bros.)

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[Bernadotte01]

that should be "Simone Bitton" - sorry.

[olterigo]

The problem with the video is it treats Jerusalem and "Palestine" (which is actually "sanjak of Jerusalem" and part of the "vilayet of Beirut") as discrete entities, separate from the rest of the Ottoman Empire. Well, the time period of this video was also the time of the Armenian massacres of 1894-1896, when throughout the Ottoman Empire somewhere between 80,000 and 300,000 Armenian Christians were murdered and at least 50,000 Armenian children were left orphans. Look at the whole picture.

[Bernadotte01]

@olterigo you are looking at an extract from iomen Bitton's Palestine: Story of Land. The Ottoman's brutal treatment of rebel Palestinians is shown, perhaps because it is contextual? Nevertheless, the Arans and APlestenians erred in dealing with the duplitious British, aloowing them to invade on horseback with no weapons, for they were better off under the Ottomans.

President Wilson's 1919 King-Crane commission found that Muslims were best suited as guardians of the holy land. Why?

[JihadOfTheSoul]

how peaceful and tolerant under Muslim rule...compare to now

[straightshooterable]

Israel: Over 63 years of trying to pound a square peg into a round hole.

[bibaltayasap]

1:07 jet imam =)

[muneebarrabi]

in 1900, 5% Jews, 10% Christians, and 85% Muslims !!!! It's good to note these 5% became 31% in 1948 (illegal immigration & help of british) !!!! and you're still unsure how the problem started !!!!

[snatch147at85]

@straightshooterable Firstly, you are 100% correct with your first statement and I have denied none of it. Secondly, as soon as the ottomans ceased their empire, it doesn't give the land owned by absentee arab landlords from abroad away. They continued to charge up to 65% interest (tenants). Over 3.1 million dunams were owned in this manner. Western palestine is approximately 8.8 million dunams.

[straightshooterable]

@snatch147at85

Go to a real university library, into the stacks and search. Your trouble is that you are both ignorant and lazy. It is common knowledge among scholars, including Israeli Jews, that Jews owned a mere 5.6% of Palestine on 15 May 1948. Also, Palestine ceased being an Ottoman province after WWI.

Once again, you only further demonstrate your lack of knowledge of the basic facts.

I HAVE NO INTEREST IN PURSUING THIS EXCHANGE AND WILL NOT READ YOUR RESPONSES.

[snatch147at85]

@snatch147at85 Difference is....I don't deny your history. I just thought it would be ok to fill in the empty spaces.

[snatch147at85]

@snatch147at85 What's my point? My point was that Israelis don't deny the takeover of the land during the 48 war. Much of it was revenge for the events occurring from 1933-1943 when Pan-arab nationalism was severely against Jews buying up land. As a result, they sided with the Nazi Party precisely because they knew eventually Hitler would take over the mediterranean basin and would help them solve the zionist problem and eventually help to restore greater Syria.

[snatch147at85]

@straightshooterable Where is it easily accessible tho? Israel, until this day, refuses to release many of the documents prior, from and slightly after the 48 war.

There are websites showing where the arab villages were but they don't specify where and how the land exchange occured (war, bribery or purchases).

How much of Western Palestine was owned by the Ottomans and wealthy Iraqis/Egyptians?

[straightshooterable]

@snatch147at85

And your point is? On second thought, don't reply. I have no interest in continuing this exchange. You just don't know enough about the subject. Take a long break and do some serious research.

[straightshooterable]

@snatch147at85

All this information is easily available, including a breakdown of individual Palestinian towns, villages and cities. Do some research using sources other than Zionist, i.e., fully documented works of internationally recognized scholars.

Bottom line: by 15 May 1948, Jews (90% of whom were foreigners) owned a mere 5.6% of the entire land area of Palestine. (The native Palestinian/Arab Jews made up just 3% of the total population and were anti-Zionist).