For sake of argument, an atheist could grant the notion that the universe was created by something/someone, and without using the tautalogy of an infite regression, and Still disprove the likelihood of theism, leaving but only, deism which any intellectually honest person would say they cannot prove nor disprove. Theists must make another step from deism to theism, but it's often a step that dance around, and fail to interpret directly.
The principle of cause and effect is a temporal relationship (as well as a material relationship established by empiricism). Thus, to say "A cause is timeless" is literal nonsense.
A "Timeless cause" is equal to saying "no cause" and thus the "The universe had a timeless cause" is eqivalent to saying "The universe had no cause."
Lol. "'Someone created something out of nothing' is more reasonable than 'No one created something out of nothing'." "Is God 'something'?" "Yes" "Then who created that something (God)?" "No one". "So no one created something (God) out of nothing" "No. God is eternal" "Exactly. No one create something (God) out of nothing. Meaning there was nothing before that something (God). "Yes." "Then no one created something out of nothing." "But.. but..." :)
This guy failed in the first 40 seconds. He needs to learn more about the Big Bang. The Big Bang doesn't state, "something was created from nothing." It's funny though, he says something coming from nothing is illogical yet he says God wasn't created. So, God falls under the category of something coming from nothing. Not to mention that if "nothing" was around in the beginning of time then how did God even create anything at all? That's something coming from nothing. This guy fails at logic.
@BondFreek ...ourselves with, I would give it a watch. For a person with unrecognized brilliance of your magnitude, I imagine it would be like watching pornography.
@franleblanc Not if it's theology. Philosophy has few practical uses - it's mostly utilizes complex words to obfuscate the issues at hand.
RaynorGo 2 days ago
@RaynorGo PhD = Educated
franleblanc 2 days ago
Turek is an uneducated, bigoted nutter.
RaynorGo 2 days ago
For sake of argument, an atheist could grant the notion that the universe was created by something/someone, and without using the tautalogy of an infite regression, and Still disprove the likelihood of theism, leaving but only, deism which any intellectually honest person would say they cannot prove nor disprove. Theists must make another step from deism to theism, but it's often a step that dance around, and fail to interpret directly.
UtopiaMinor666 4 days ago
The principle of cause and effect is a temporal relationship (as well as a material relationship established by empiricism). Thus, to say "A cause is timeless" is literal nonsense.
A "Timeless cause" is equal to saying "no cause" and thus the "The universe had a timeless cause" is eqivalent to saying "The universe had no cause."
Wittgensteinism 1 week ago 2
Wittgensteinism 1 week ago 2
This guy failed in the first 40 seconds. He needs to learn more about the Big Bang. The Big Bang doesn't state, "something was created from nothing." It's funny though, he says something coming from nothing is illogical yet he says God wasn't created. So, God falls under the category of something coming from nothing. Not to mention that if "nothing" was around in the beginning of time then how did God even create anything at all? That's something coming from nothing. This guy fails at logic.
Justinzilla 1 week ago
@jordan6030 Must of hit a nerve ha.
TheBrockster88 1 week ago
Perhaps he needs to debate Neil deGrasse Tyson This guy is incredibly ignorant.
TheHocks1608 2 weeks ago
@BondFreek ...ourselves with, I would give it a watch. For a person with unrecognized brilliance of your magnitude, I imagine it would be like watching pornography.
jee5678 2 weeks ago