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I'm not an "atheist", I'm a realist. I have faith in the words of Sagan, Hawking, Dawkins and Tyson.
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@DeadThouusand a) modern society has such an "all or nothing" atitude that it doesn't like modifiers of any kind. The debate has become Theist v Anti-theist. Atheists get swept up with the later group, eclectics (lacking a doctrine) are ridiculed an rejected by the theists they get lumped in with, and agnostics are ridiculed by both sides on the few occasions they speak out.
b) modern entertainment panders to the lowest possible denominator so words of more than two sylables are discouraged.
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@Dinuial Interesting. But I suppose they are common terms but I don't see everybody talk like that.
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@DeadThouusand The person you just discribed is a Christian agnostic. And apart from including the Greek etymology the words I used are common terms.
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@Dinuial A Lutheran atheist :D But yeah as I was saying, it's just a little different when it's official. I mean, a person who's officially a christian and belongs to church, BUT does not really believe in god, and doesn't realy care about the whole religious thing, I know some adults like that.. Now do we both agree with these differences? (And please try not use those difficult terms and words and use common spoken language, it makes you sound like a smart ass) PS. I'm not english nor american
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Mythology - greek mythos "unalterable truth" (as opposed to logos- "malleable truth", "that which has been agreed upon"). Modern deffinition, sacred narative.
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@DeadThouusand How inexactitude of deffinitions limits understanding and effective commuinication.
You said "atheist" when your meaning was "religious eclectic". A Christian without a church doctrine interpreting the mythology for them would be a Christian Eclectic.
You are an Evangelical Lutheran, baptized and about to be confirmed. If you keep that doctrine while rejecting the existence of god, you would be a Lutheran atheist. If you believe in god you are simply a Lutheran.
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@Dinuial Okay, there was a bunch of words I didn't recognise. But what was your point, exactly?
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@DeadThouusand You're thinking of religious eclectics.
Atheism - Greek a(without) theos(god). Literally one who is without god or rejects belief in same withot proof first being offered.
Agnostic - gr a(without) gnosis(knowledge). Generally open to the possible existence of gods, even without proof, but does not insist upon existence of same or adhere to a religious ethic.
Eclectic - gr eklektikos "choosing the best". Finds complementary insights to a subject drawn from multiple sources.
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@dwyImike So, by your logic NOT playing basketball IS the same thing as playing basketball?
@dwyImike "but atheism IS a religion."
I hear this a lot. I don't know why, perhaps its thought by religious people who cannot comprehend a life without religion, or perhaps some people just have a total misunderstanding of what atheism is in general.
Let me put it this way. If atheism is a religion, than not playing baseball is a sport.
wilmarsh133 2 days ago 60
how people can say "I reject all religions" and then someone says "that's just another religion" is the ultimate religious logical fallacy.
mimthefree 2 days ago 6