The Trinity Screw Cell - Intro

This is the introduction of the "Trinity Screw Cell".

Important Disclaimer!! This is a work in progress. I am still identifying issues and working out solutions. This is NOT the 'hey, I finally found the cure to all HHO problems' solution.

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This is 3 Screw Cell cartridges wired in series.

12.5 VDC applied to entire assembly. Voltage drop of about 4.166 VDC across each cell.

Total amps is currently about 7.5 after the cell pack had been warmed up for about 15 minutes. I am looking to increase the amperage to about 20 amps total draw.

The intent of wiring 3 cells in series is an attempt to manage heat distribution more effectively without the use of a PWM or other current/voltage controller.

Please note that I may go back to a parallel arrangement of these three or more cells once I have acquired some sort of Pulse Width Modulated (PWM) controller or other device to manage the current flowing within this circuit.

This current configuration is set up for unrestricted brute force using only 12VDC automotive system as the voltage and current regulators without a PWM.

Category:

Science & Technology

Tags:

• water
• hho
• hydroxy
• hydrogen
• brown
• gas
• alternative
• fuel
• generator

[WolfVecho]

try getting the cooler element from an old air conditioner or old refrigerator freezer element

they are usually made of copper I'm not sure how they will withstand the caustic but using acid like Tartaric, Acetic or Phosphoric shouldn't be an issue pump your cells electrolyte through the cooler & blow a fan on the cooler also if your not running a pulse width modulator on your design you will be generating allot more heat than you really need to as you will have no control over current draw

[lutherp40]

Thank you for the feedback.

I more or less came to that same conclusion a quite while back.

This 3 pack wired in series was a feeble attempt to drop the gap voltages down.

The primary problem was that there were significant gas leaks "everywhere"!!

Hydrogen is a very small molecule. It can get out where most anything else can't.

Basically all my screw cell development has been temporarily suspended for the time being.

I am hoping to come back to these one day. :)

[WolfVecho]

well I'd like to see the results when you do thank you for the clip this was something similar to what I was going to build to run my car some time ago but on a very much smaller scale

[lutherp40]

Screw cells have some very interesting operating principles and advantages, but one of the limitations is that it is really difficult to introduce a voltage divider circuit eliminating current leakage to make it compatible with 12VDC.

What you really need is a way to drop the voltage down to 2.2VDC before it gets to the cell. (a PWM as "one" example of how to do it.)

[HOTFLMAN]

Hey lutherp40

Check out zerofossilfuels videos, he has designed one of his electronic peaces to regulate the voltage to increase start up production and to de-crease voltage to decrease or maintain level heat while maintaining high HHO output. This guy thought of everything.

[lutherp40]

Thank you for your feedback and comment.

I've been along time subscriber of ZeroFossleFuel's videos and like his work very much.

As I recall, he became my second subscription right after EletrikRide and just before sirHoax.

For the time being I now have a PWM I can use until I can come up with something better. So hopefully I can double back on this project in the near future.

[razorfuely]

Hi new to utube I have a parrallel cell it works pretty good. One cell is 7 plates and one is 6 plates. The one acts as a resitor for the other and lowers voltage to the one. I really think parralel is the way to go. Look at bob boyce design his is this way with hi voltage dc.Keep up the good work good luck.

[lutherp40]

My first few test configurations using plates were not very impressive. The video from Fordenergy showing his 'helix' cell (one of my favorites) gave me the inspiration to think up this particular design.

I can not claim it is a good design until I can prove my many LPM and MMW values.

Mostly been caught up in trying to be able to do just that rather improving the cell.

I need to know where I've been to know if I am going in the right direction.

[roompainter]

I think your getting it dialed in just fine :)

[FIZZYH2O]

hi lutherp40, lots of rain in michigan these days i see. i'm drawing a lot of amps too. i'm trying more surface area which seems to be what u are doing as well. i'm still wondering about using screws. what convinced you not to use plates?