Zeitgeist Movement - Your current approach is unscientific

I am making this video to respond to some of the ideas talked about in the recent video released by the TZMofficialchannel entitled: RBE Concepts why we are not building cities. In their video the TZMofficialchannel spends some time going through a set of justifications for why they are not building cities or communities. I am going to go through some of these and demonstrate why this position is unscientific, and why it breeds distrust for the movement.

RBE Concepts Why Are We Not Building Cities
pt. 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51oLgrxqnY4&feature=related
pt. 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvtZlhMV1AA

Category:

Nonprofits & Activism

Tags:

• tzm
• tvp
• the zeitgeist movement
• the venus project
• Jacques Fresco
• Peter Joseph

[OxiDemonik]

I'm advocate of TZM and TVP and I actually agree with everything you say in this video.

[coolwater8u]

Im not sure i understand dismissing this Idea ,,, All systems of the past and present have never worked ,So if you dont try it you will never know if it will work , So without all due respect No body knows , But if you want to improve the current , Why not start with this Idea and build on it , Rather than trying to patch up the old over and over again at the expence of more people lives. Millions of people believe in this Idea and ive seen the progress they have made. Enjoy the TZM ride :)

[Frederiknshansen]

I agree with your points made here, especially about the human element - Proof will have to be.. ehh.. arrived at? I am not a science-major but that seemed to be the term used by the movement. I hope that this will be possible with all my heart and the greatest threat I fear is our present culture between human beings. We need a spiritual awakening to take hold for this project to work.

[TZMrazvitie]

distributing resources scientifically vs the money lottery - needs some fuckin testin... are we done with the money testing yet??? war industry? advertising? its like the argument of inquisition - "please test before fighting against Witch-hunting"

[MegaMindgames]

Yes there needs to be a test on smaller scales before, I don't think that the video you quoted said otherwise it just said explained why at this time the efforts are more educational than to be working directly on working on a test city. The "official" goal of TVP is still to build a test city first. So no contradiction to what you say.

[SuperKevinheart]

@ejpetersondub so what is the use of having a price system if there are infinite resources??? Because the Earth keeps producing back nothing runs out. I don't believe that the current establishment is in favor of infinite resources because if that was the case it wouldn't exist.

[SuperKevinheart]

@ejpetersondub Isn't it the other way around? I mean the price system wants to convince the population that there are not enough resources. So the establishment came up with the idea of scarcity and scarcity represents limited resources. Infinite resources represent abundance for everybody where as finite resources represents scarcity.

[pedroalvesmkt]

Very true. and we shall present proof. Soon hopefully.

Now, TZM can be tested on a smaller basis (with a few cities), but to enjoy it's full potential it would have to be implemented on a global scale. The fact that people have to evolve in order to allow such a system is of course it's biggest challenge. But that's the truth, we MUST evolve/grow! because right now, I'm ashamed of the human species. Ignorant, violent, racist... just a waste of human potential we all posses. Peace.