Battaglia by Andrea Gabrieli, brass music as heard in Venice around 1600

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[agormanvideos]

What instruments did Gabrielli use for this?

[ambusy1]

@agormanvideos cornet, trumpet, tromba, trombone, violin

[peddletoneG]

@rosten736 I would agree, but more for Giovanni than Andrea; the uncle was surely talented and taught John a lot, but John took it a step beyond. And he did some nice choral things, too. S'all good...

[proulxmontpellier]

@unclestubie sackbut comes from the French verbs "saquer" (pull) and "bouter" (push). The Italian called them tromboni, because they are big trumpets (tromba). It's important to avoid being too particular with words which, sometimes, have two meanings (if not more).

[peddletoneG]

@unclestubie Granted, they are different instruments. I will defer to your having played an alto sackbutt....however, having been an award winning euphonium player, and only a sometime 'bonist (I never claim to be one) which do you think I would be better suited to play right off the bat---a sackbutt or a viola de gamba? 0r organum? Or rackett? A pink rose is not a hibiscus. But it's a flower, not an oak. I hope you had a good time at U of M, a shout out from Bawmer, hawn.

[unclestubie]

@peddletoneG I was a trombone major at the University of Maryland and I specialized in medieval and renaissance music. While performing in the Collegium Musicum I played an alto sackbutt. There is a difference. I was merely stating a fact. The timbre is different. A sackbutt, though similar, is not a trombone. Your analogy of the " A rose by any other name.." is not accurate. They are different instuments.

[peddletoneG]

@unclestubie Friend, a rose by another name. The sackbutts (also sagbutts) had a smaller bell and softer alloys to work with, could not 'blatt' the way modern ones can and too often do. As recently as the Sousa era the bells were smaller and metal less 'brilliant' in sound. Anyone know when slide locks were introduced? My antique never had one, just a friction fit. Works okay, not as slick action as the modern ones..... Would you call shorter people of a thousand years back unhuman?

[unclestubie]

@ambusy1 The trombone had not yet been invented back in Gabrieli's day. It was then called a sackbut.

[rosten736]

Sousa may be the march king .. but Grabeli is the brass king