Bible's Buried Secrets (BBC) Ep.1: Did King David's empire exist? (4/4)

Episode 1 (out of 3), fourth and last part. More details on part 1.

Category:

Film & Animation

Tags:

• documentary
• religion
• Bible
• old testament
• Francesca Stavrakopoulou
• Israel Finkelstein
• archeology
• theology
• history
• polytheism
• monotheism
• ancient levant
• ancient near east
• israelites
• judaism
• christianity
• biblical studies
• god
• yahweh
• king david
• king solomon
• israel
• bbc
• bbc2

[ShaylahGr]

unbiased eh... at the very start of this project, she gave David's story a variety of terms ranging from "claim" to "myth" - she stressed on the "myth" one quite neatly. she knew what answers she intended to find before she even got started.

i do have a genuine query though - If King Omri was such a great successful king with so much power, how is it that HE didn't have any control over the Jewish bible writings like the Judeans? or at least why did he not create some of his own propaganda?

[keirapotter]

@ShaylahGr Well it's not "if" king Omri had power, we know from the data he had. We also know that the Old Testament is written from a southern perspective. The northen Kingdom of Israel fell almost 2 centuries before the Kingdom of Judah. That means from 722 BC to 586 BC there was only the southern Kingdom. A lot of writing of the OT took place at that time (probably no biblical texts before 9th BC). Then when Judah fell, inhabitants were exiled in Babylon, and scribes wrote a lot.

[keirapotter]

@ShaylahGr So most of the writing took place when Israel (northern kingdom) didn't exist anymore. After it fell, when Judah was still there, the cult of Yhwh was centralized to Jerusalem, explaining the southern perspective of the texts.

[MistyMarie1970]

I suppose the Armana letters are about Omri to are they?

[MistyMarie1970]

If the myth theory was true as she claimed & there was no united kingdom under David & Solomon,& she refers to Omri as the first Israelite King from any kingdom, Then how is it that both areas were Israelites & under one God? If there was no king David or Solomon, doesn't that mean they weren't Israelites? & How would Omri explain his Israelite history. Maybe the evidence cant be found because you live on top of the evidence . do you move peoples houses to do digs or dig where it is open to dig

[NLT31]

This girl is very smug, she seems very biased, evidence or not she wouldn't accept biblical truth even if it hit her in the face her athiest beliefs block her.

[NECHOII]

@SHAYLAHGR: No doubt KING OMRI DID create his own propaganda ( like any King ), while he reigned. Most unfortunately, it's all been lost to history ! Perhaps, one day some lucky man might stumble across a treasure trove of documents, ( like the DEAD SEA SCROLLS ) sealed in clay jars, stashed away in a cave somewhere, that document the reigns of KINGS OMRI, AHAB and QUEEN JEZEBEL.

[NECHOII]

@MRIMMOBILE : LOOK to ARCHAEOLOGY and the SECULAR HISTORIANS such as DR. FRANCESCA STAVRAKOPOULOU for NON - BIBLICAL PROOF that there WERE ISRAELITIES IN THE HOLY LAND IN ANCIENT TIMES.

For ARCHAEOLOGICAL - HISTORICAL PROOF  look to THE MERNEPTAH STELA, TEL DAN STELAE, MOABITE MESHA STONE, SHALMANSER BLACK OBELISK and the SHALMANSER INSCRIPTION.

NEVER is there any mention of PALESTINIANS in the HOLY LAND ANYWHERE !

[MrImmobile]

@NECHOII The bible does not entitle the jews to isreal. Many different people have lived in isreal but modern palastinians are not to blame for anything and it is the land they inheritied. I think if jews wants to live there they should but it should not be in replace of palistinians. It is there home in modern times and a fictitious book does not change that.

[DevilsAvocado1]

@ShaylahGr Historical people and places can not be owned by religion - they either existed or they didn't. Even if these people and places existed or there is loads of evidence for them having existed, the detail and proof needed to support the supernatural claims of the bible or any other holy book can never and will never be found. So... the most religious wish-thinkers can hope for is proof of a particular political and geographical backdrop for their fairy tales.

[woosung58]

@MrDmanJO Think she made it clear, there is archaeological evidence for Omri, so why isn't there for David?

[FeignofCordor]

I don`t go along with the lady who approached this subject with a Bias and took the claims of the Atheist Archaeologists as " Gospel " whilst simply waving away those who claim in the affirmative . " Little evidence" is not the same as "No evidence" yet both terms are used by her to describe The Evidence for King David. It seams to me the BBC has great appetite for discrediting the Bible whilst lording up islam at every opportunity.

[William00048]

@ShaylahGr Oh, why didn't Omri have any control of the Jewish bible writings? She does answer this. A. He wasn't Jewish. B. It was written after he was already dust.