The Trinity - The truth

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[MrJayguess]

(Yawn) another self-styled Bible 'expert' who knows better than the thousands of Church leaders, Greek experts, theologians, Christian leaders, rank & file Christians and textual critics over the last 2000 years. His errors are glaring and if you know schoolboy Greek, his garbage rejecting the Trinity can easily be dismissed. Just don;t get fooled by people like these! They argue the minutiae of scripture, but reject the God who insired it, and reject his live also in favour of heretical venom.

[CamdenChristadelphia]

@MrJayguess You seem to take great comfort in the what seems to be the truth based on Church leaders etc etc knowing full well that what was true yesterday has been changed today.The Catholics are particularly good at this.

You seem to be an armchair critic who offers nothing positive.I checked your channel and you dont put any video's up for scrutiny, you just criticise what you dont understand.

Here's your chance to change.

Did jesus give up HIS LIFE on the cross?

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[thewordofgod2010]

Pure heresy refuted centuries ago. The Trinity doctrine is solid as a rock. Jesus IS Yahweh.

Matthew 19:17 He said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is GOOD but one, that is, God.."

John 10:11 I am the GOOD shepherd.* The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.

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Isaiah 43:11 I myself am Yahweh; and besides me there is no savior.

2nd Peter 3:18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and forever. Amen.

[CamdenChristadelphia]

@thewordofgod2010

Please go and do some homework on the word "Good" in Matt 19 and John 10.

This verse might help you understand Isaiah 43

2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Jesus and his Father are different in authority not equal as the Trinity dogma insists.

1Co 11:3 the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

[MrJayguess]

@xu1997 If I 'judged' Barack Obama to be mixed race, I am not being racist - for he IS mixed race. In the same way I am not judging this guy nor his relationship (if there is any) with God, but his motive. YOU have not been privvy to our private correspondence. He's a fraud and I stand by everything I said.

[xu1997]

@MrJayguess

"You are a misguided charlatan" is not judgemental?? Oh please!! Be Honest.

You have judged this man to be a charlatan (your words) then justified your own behaviour and judged yourself to be in a REAL relationship with Christ.

When its pointed out to you you say "I will never judge this guy" but its plain to see here that you have..

You are condemned by your own mouth.

This is about as Pharisaical as it gets.

I think you should apologise for your rudeness

[MrJayguess]

@xu1997 I will never judge this guy, but i WILL speak out against his beliefs and motives. If Paul can use his Roman citizenship to protect himself, protect Christians, and further the gospel (Acts 22:24-29; 23:12-33; 25:10-12; 16:35-40) then I can use means at my diposal to expose this evil lest others be misled by this charlatan.

A real relationship with Christ? You bet. I suggest YOU read Matt 7:22-23 - it applies to this guy admirably.

[xu1997]

@MrJayguess Dosn't Jesus say something about "by their fruits ye shall know them"

I dont know you but in your comment you have boasted about your intellect and hurled abuse and slander at Camden christadelphian.

Hardly descriptive of the fruits displayed by "someone who has a real relationship with Christ"

More like someone who is totally wrapped up in their own self importance.

It's up to Jesus to judge who has "a real" relationship with him NOT you. Read Matt 7 v 20-23

[MrJayguess]

@CamdenChristadelphia Another month goes by and still you refuse to debate issues. As soon as you realised that I was a Bible scholar with adequate Greek and Hebrew, you have refused to talk, saying that I am 'low priority'. No wonder you refused - as your bastardisation of God's word is easily quashed by someone who has a real relationship with Christ.

You are a misguided charlatan & only place these videos to mislead & misguide - a worrying sign showing diabolic influence

[jdb0905]

@thewordofgod2010 One God...yes. Yahshua is not God. Yahweh is God, the Father.

[thewordofgod2010]

@jdb0905 Actually the Romans (and Jews of that day) would have instantly understood this concept. Rome had many "gods" and anyone that was the "son of a god" was a human representation of that god, a god man. So when Christ claimed he was THE Son of God (Yahweh) the Jews were enraged at this claim. Thus they wanted to stone Christ, because there is only ONE God!

[jdb0905]

@thewordofgod2010 Yahshua is the son of himself...wow

[jayandersons]

@epic103 i dont belive i the trinatey , ps y becomes j so gods name would be jehovha.

[epic103]

@thewordofgod2010

No, because Jesus is the One GOD sent!!!

You don't understand the concept of REPRESENTATION!!! Jesus represents GOD, because he is the Anointed One that GOD sent!!! But that doesn't mean Jesus is GOD!!!

It's about representation!!! Jesus is the Son of the Highest, but the Most High is always the Father(Yahweh), they're not the same!!!

[thewordofgod2010]

@epic103 You are hiding from this and it's staring you in the face. Jesus didn't merely say he thinks he is a good guy. He gave himself the TITLE "Good Shepard." That wasn't just casual conversation.

So who is the "Good Shepard"? 1.) Only God is good per Jesus. 2.) And Yahweh (God) is our shepherd Psalms 23:1.

"Yahweh is my shepherd: I shall lack nothing." Psalms 23:1 (WEB)

[epic103]

@thewordofgod2010

Come on, don't play dumb!!! You know the difference!!!

When Jesus said only GOD is good, he was referring to the Father(Yahweh). Jesus wasn't referring to himself or a trinity, he was referring to his GOD!!!

Only GOD is all knowing, all powerful, all good etc... Only GOD is truly all good!!!

That doesn't mean Jesus isn't good, use your head!!!

[thewordofgod2010]

@epic103 Jesus said ONLY God is good Matthew 19:17. And then Jesus in fact claimed to be good, John 10:11

So is the one that God sent a lair? Or is he GOOD and therefore God?

[epic103]

@jayandersons

Because the word "LORD" in the Old Testament means Yahweh(YHWH). Yahweh is our Father in heaven!!! In other words, the GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is Yahweh(LORD, Father).

But the word "Lord" doesn't mean GOD in every case, it depends on the context!!!

There is only One who is called THE LORD GOD, and that's the Father(Yahweh).

Jesus is a servant of Yahweh. Isaiah.42:1, Acts.3:13, Acts.3:26, Acts.13:23 etc...

[epic103]

@thewordofgod2010

Most of what you said is misapplied!!!

And yes a man(created being) can atone for sins. Read your Bible!!!

Through the disobedience of one man(Adam) many were made sinners, so also by the obedience of one man(Jesus) the many are made righteous!!!

Remember, Jesus was the one that GOD sent!! John.17:3, John.7:16, John.7:28 etc...

GOD our Father(Yahweh) is the source of salvation, and Jesus Christ is the chief agent(captain) of our salvation!!!

[thewordofgod2010]

@epic103 There is no controversy. Just your false doctrine that Jesus is not Yahweh. Only in Yahweh is there salvation. If Jesus is not Yahweh your sins are not covered. No created being can atone for your sins, only Yahweh can. Your false Jesus cannot save you anymore than a false Noah would have saved you from the flood. You are in grave danger. Put your faith in Yahweh, accept your ONLY Savior Jesus Christ "God with us".

[wallymano]

Good question!! the answer is in the heriage and geneology's of Messiah. Mathew, Kingly, as the decendant of David "The lion of the tribe of Judah" LION. Mark the servant no paticular care is usualyy given to the bloodlines of a servant OX. Luke, direct, medical perspctive, follows the bloodline of the mother of Jesus takes the line of Nathan instead of Solomon to avioding the blood curse placed on Jeconiah in Jer 22:30 David MAN. And John higher plain containing a geneology that of his Deity!

[epic103]

@thewordofgod2010

So???  Being ONE and being equal(same) are two different statements!!! You can be ONE with GOD without being the same(equal).

Also, Jesus is never called "GOD the Son." Being the Son of GOD, and being GOD the Son are two separate statements!!!

Plus, in John.17:21-23 Jesus said we are all ONE with he and the Father!!! Being ONE doesn't make us the same or equal!!!

Jesus made clear the only true GOD is the Father(Yahweh, Most High).

That ends any controversy!!!

[thewordofgod2010]

@epic103 Yes, the LORD GOD is the Father. And the Father and Son are one. The Romans understood this immediately, the "son of a god" was the human representation of that god. So when Christ said he was the "The Son" of God, there was doubt what he was claiming. He was claiming to be Yahweh in the flesh. It just gets lost on us today. Again, this has been very well understood for centuries.

[epic103]

@thewordofgod2010

Don't be ridiculous!!! The LORD GOD is the Father!!!

For Moses said, the LORD our GOD will raise up for you a prophet like me from amoung your own people; You must listen to everything he tells you. Acts.3:22

From this man's(David) seed according to the promise, GOD raised up for Israel a Savior, Jesus. Acts.13:23

The GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the GOD of our forefathers has glorified His servant, Jesus.  Acts.3:13

The true GOD is the Father(Yahweh)