The Bones of Station H

If FDR wanted to enter the war he didn't have to allow the fleet to be destroyed ! Te attack itself would be enough.

For more information about the documented HF/DF Radio Intercepts of KIDO BUTAI performed by SS LURLINE's 2nd Radio Officer LESLIE GROGAN and Chief Radio Officer RUDY APSLUND before the 12/07/1941 PH Attack, just Google:

Warning at Pearl Harbor:
Leslie Grogan and the Tracking of the Kido Butai

You may also want to take a look at this (paperback)...

"Pearl Harbor Redefined: USN Radio Intelligence in 1941", by Timothy Wilford

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But on the post "Saddaam's nooks" age, we know the government and media lie to us about some very important things. The burden of proof is on them now. We no longer need to prove the government it lying, they must prove they tell the truth.

crazy but liked the visuals - you should read "At Dawn they Slept"

I have read "At Dawn They Slept." I own a copy. It's about as convincing as the Warren Report..

The only thing I can add is from my own personal observation - that intelligence pumps out 100s if not thousands of reports. Some are right, some are wrong, some are ignored, some are acted on. It's easy to look back in history and point to the damning piece of action of a government that failed to act on a particular report just as it is easy to point to the faults of a government that acted on failed intelligence.

They call me a cospiracy theorist because I said 9/11 was an inside job. History just repeated itself. FDR sacrificed 2,000 americans for WW2. Bush sacrificed 3,000 plus for his war on terror

That's why the Aircraft carriers were 200 mi south of Hawaii on 7 Dec 41. The Japs only succeeded in sinking old relics. But sadly, innocent soldiers & sailors paid the price for being the sacrificial lambs.

This is not some wacko conspiracy theory; it's a historical fact that the Japanese were deliberately goaded into attacking U.S. forces and that their plans were known to the president and his inner circle. As WRhappened mentions above, Robert Stinnet, in his book "Day of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor", documents these facts very thoroughly.

"Attack Was Expected"
NY Times in its 12/8/41 Headline on Pearl Harbor

"Everything that the Japanese were planning to do was Known to the United States."
-ARMY BOARD, 1944

"We knew well in advance that the Japanese were going to attack. It was a lie that we didn't have direct radio communication with DC."
-Lt. Col. Clifford Andrew

"I have believed that our best entrance into the war would be by way of Japan."
-Oct 18 -entry by Sec of Interior Harold Ickes