Dan Savage at Rhodes College - Catholic Church and Celibacy
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The way I respond to it is "Fuck you uncle Jimmy!"
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Oh and given that they except evolution by natural selection as the method for which humanity came about (no need to applaud them, it took them a century after the publication of "the Origin of Species", while it took Marx about a year...), they should hold it as more consistent that the desire for sex is an evolutionary byproduct of selection in that animals with genes that gave an organism an appetite for having sex were more likely to live...
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Basically they hold that ejaculation for any purposes other than generation is wrong, using one interpretation of "not spilling one's seed". Interesting to note that the Catholic Church allowed priests to marry for over one thousand years though and held that the foetus was ensouled at 40 days for a boy (actually before a foetus develops sexual characteristics) and 80 for a girl. Consistent Catholics would campaign against pornography first though, since lusting after a woman is adultery.
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Another (very bad) Catholic here. Their argument actually is the most consistent with Jesus' teachings in the New Testament: adultery *is* still the only approved reason for divorce within the Catholic Church, though one can petition the Pope to get the marriage annulled if they determine that one or the other partner had no intention to keep the vows. They also apply celibacy until marriage to everyone and hold marriage to be man and woman one flesh like Mark 10:8.
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Dan Savage deserves an award for Humanitarian of the decade. Amazing, insightful and funny.
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00:30 UNCLE JIMMY!!!! THE ROCKER WHO LIKES STRANGE BLOWJOBS!!!!!
I've probably watched way too many of these..... But I just can't stop. I love you, Dan.
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Lord of salvation keep looking away
It is your will that this world goes astray
Take us each day from this place you unworthed
Unfulfilled promise of heaven on earth
You are the one who killed your own son
We are the ones your hatred is on
Children are dying and this you're content
Where is your profit in what you have left
No intervention from angels above
god is the reason that Satan lives on
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Sorry about the double-post!
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Much of what Dan Savage said made sense. But I wish that he hadn't implied that the priests who molested kids did so because of the celebacy issue--this falsely links pedophilia and homosexuality, two very different things. Pedophilia, like other kinds of rape, is often a crime of power. Also, some people are simply more attracted to kids (of either gender) than they are to adults. But I agree that heteros should not demand celebacy from gays without demanding the same from other heteros.
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Much of what Dan Savage said made sense. But I wish that he hadn't implied that the priests who molested kids did so because of the celebacy issue--this falsely links pedophilia and homosexuality, two very different things. Pedophilia, like other kinds of rape, is often a crime of power. Also, some people are simply more attracted to kids (of either gender) than they are to adults. But I agree that heteros should not demand celebacy from gays without demanding the same from other heteros.
YOU ARE SUCH A FANTASTIC SPOKESMEN DAN!!!! <3 you and what you do for us LBGT-Peeps :D Danke from Germany!!! :) *kirsten*
DevilwearinVans 8 months ago 27
I love you.
Epiphanott 8 months ago 13