Saving the World 1 Video at a Time: The Political Spectrum

This is my personal political spectrum map that I hope to use as a reference to help people understand how I see different political ideologies interacting. It was inspired by the Nolan Chart but modified for my own views.

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[Adeikov]

What about the grey boxes on the 45 degree line?

[Aliothemage]

@Adeikov

Those are just points where various ideologies meet, they don't represent any unique world view.

[Aliothemage]

I refer to the USSR as being communist because that is what they called themselves and that is what is commonly understood to be communism today, I even said in the video that you can call it Stalinism instead if you wish. I also put Marxism on the spectrum all on its own and complete separated it from communism/stalinism to recognize that it is a different system. And yes, it is a "simple" model, that was what I was aiming for.

And no, not all anarchists are even somewhat socialist.

[Ichtiostega]

@Aliothemage yes they are. you're probably disagreeing with me on this because you've heard of so called "anarcho"-capitalism. but I simply don't count them as anarchists because anarchism has historically and philosophically always been anticapitalist, as capitalism is inherently oppressive and anarchists are against oppression. no real anarchist regards them as anarchists.

[Aliothemage]

@Ichtiostega

Anarchists agree that the state is harmful/unnecessary. They do not all agree that socialism is a viable or even desirable economic system. Many would say that socialism, even it's most ideal form, is unjust and oppressive because it is inherently collectivist. I'm sorry but you're just being biased. You're personal distaste for the free-market and private property does not prevent other anarchists from supporting it.

[TheBlindPowerslave]

@Aliothemage Wrong. USSR never identified themselves as "commnunists" but as socialists, hence the name "Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics".

[maxime32]

@Ichtiostega

Anarchism may have a more communistic heritage, but I think there are relatively few anarcho-communists today because such an ideology has been shown to be ridiculous. In the 20th century, the State has been an instrument of social progress, which has disproven the idea that State power is automatically linked to corporate power. Inversely, a reduction in State power and rise in internationalism have not correlated to greater freedom and equality.

[Aliothemage]

@Ichtiostega

There are more than just corporations that employ people. People can also write books, sing, play sports, start businesses, invent things, become house wives/husbands, and do many other things. There are also worker owned and operated businesses out there that people can join. Therefore, people are by no means driven to "wage slavery". Businesses are just giving people opportunities to use their capital for mutual benefit, no one is forcing them to work there.

[Ichtiostega]

@Aliothemage it may have been the end goal of their ideology, but it is not fit to describe the political and economic system of the soviet union. another point is the overall simplicity of your model. there are lots of different forms of anarchism and socialism for example, these terms in fact overlap as every anarchist is somewhat of a socialist. this is the problem of using political terms without exact definitions: you create semantical contradictions and misinterpretations.

[Ichtiostega]

@Aliothemage well most of the time the worker doesn't have any other choice than to work for a corporation, he may choose which corporation it is but since they're in fact autocratic institutional structure is the same, it doesn't make any difference. this is called wage slavery. with respect to the term "communism", I just think it is not apropriate to call the political system of the soviet union communism, because that is simply not the case.