The Resurrection of Jesus -- A Question

A question about Jesus' post-resurrection state as it's described in 1 Corinthians 15:45.

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[RadarKat73080]

Strange that the Apostles would be freaked out about Jesus' resurrection. Where they not at Lazarus' resurrection and the other people's?

[ProfMTH]

@RadarKat73080 And told so many times in the gospels that the resurrection was coming. In so many ways, these are just poorly written stories.

[RadarKat73080]

@ProfMTH The whole Bible a massive, bad joke.

[truthbknwn]

@ProfMTH I love your videos bcuz I was a devout Christian for many years, and coming out of it is like coming out of a CULT, and I need solid, truthful logic to stand against the Christian belief that I will spend an eternity in hell for defecting. I also like it that you aren't a Satanist or clearly bent on glorifying darkness and evil, but rather, you uphold TRUTH.

Keep up the good work!

[misterD418]

"Pneuma" is not univocal, just as we have different uses of the word "Spirit" in English (e.g. team spirit, Holy Spirit, etc)

"Pneuma" in Luke's passage: a disembodied spirit, ghost, or demon (Lk 4:33; 8:29; 9:39; 11:24; 24:37)

"Pneuma" in 1 Corinthians passage: The spiritual nature of Christ, contrasted with the MERE human soul of Adam (Rom 1:4; 8,9; 2 Cor 3:17,18; Gal 4:6)

[AdstarAPAD]

@Pro

Ecclesiastes 3

20 All go to one place: all are from the dust, and all return to dust. 21 Who knows the spirit of the sons of men, which goes upward, and the spirit of the animal, which goes down to the earth?

Job32

8 But there is a spirit in man, And the breath of the Almighty gives him understanding.

Zechariah 12

1 The burden of the word of the LORD against Israel. Thus says the LORD, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him

[ProfMTH]

@AdstarAPAD "It is a foundational teaching in the scriptures that men are both Body and Spirit...."

Really? Where is this "foundational teaching" found?

"Jesus would not have been stating that he did not have Spirit."

The passage in Luke has Jesus saying unequivocally that he is not a spirit. By contrast, the passage in 1 Corinthians 15 says that after the resurrection he was a spirit. Is that why you need to say he was both, in order to reconcile those contradictory passages?

[AdstarAPAD]

@ProfMTH It is a foundational teaching in the scriptures that men are both Body and Spirit, all men are both. Jesus would not have been stating that he did not have Spirit. You are taking the words of Jesus in this verse and isolating it from the context of the verses around it. So i have answered your question and i think any reasonable observer of this exchange would see my explanation as reasonable.

[ProfMTH]

@AdstarAPAD "When Jesus said He was not a spirit He was saying that He was not just a spirit."

Of course, that's not what the text has him saying. You're imposing that on the text in your effort to harmonize it with the relevant passage from 1 Corinthians that says he's a spirit.

"This is really common sense."

Oh, no, it's not.

"Jesus reply was in response to the apostle’s false perception of Him."

Their perception that he was a spirit, the very thing 1 Corinthians says he was.

[AdstarAPAD]

@ProfMTH Jesus was clearly replying to them because they where thinking he was a Ghost. When Jesus said He was not a spirit He was saying that He was not just a spirit. But also flesh. This is really common sense. Jesus reply was in response to the apostle’s false perception of Him. His answer has to be understood in that context.