Abortion Illegal With Conservative Bill C-484

Bill C-484, proposed by a Conservative MP attempts to make abortion illegal.

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[m2redshirt]

Your argument based on what is scientific or not is irrelevant. Criminal law deals with ethical issues that may have little to do with science. Can science determine that it would be a crime for me to feed you to a hungry lion? No. Science does not place more value on your life than on the life of an antelope. It is ethics agreed upon by the society, not science, that determines that your life is of more value than the life of an antelope. Bill C-484 may be bad. But your argument is irrelevant.

[scottyross00]

Criminal law does not deal with ethical issues. Law is law. Ethics is ethics. Law may represent ethics, but it is separate and operates separately from ethics.

My argument is that C-484 attempted to make abortion illegal through the back door. That was my argument considering C-484.

I presented another argument, using Scientific fact, to philosophically illustrate abortion should be legal.

[Carrascogirl]

If its not alive then it must be dead? sorry but a fetus is certainly not dead - I think you mean to talk about personhood but you keep saying alive - it makes no sense

[scottyross00]

It does actually. There are understandings of the term alive when used with people denotes personhood.

[ROlshansky1]

Which scientist says embryos aren't alive?

[Mrdubomb]

10 years? thats nowhere near enough. SInce when should a woman have the right to murder her own child while still in the womb?

How about a mans right to choose wether or not the child lives and/or wether or not he has a say in paying support?

I can't believe God didn't judge Canada and the US a long time ago by wiping us off the earth like the inhabitants before the great flood, or allowing another nation to overtake us like the Cananites VS Israelites.

Justin

[tommy34543]

there not "potential people" in less than 9 months though...

[tommy34543]

its funny how you said "most scientists" implying not all...how many scientists think a bunch of cells isnt a life i would like to know statistics...also if the bunch is cells isnt a life why then do we say the women is pregnant? and why do we say she is now a mother? is she a mother to a bunch of cells?

[BoredomCorner]

@Carrascogirl In its early stages, an embryo or zygote is biologically just a cluster of cells. That's all.

[AllenFTW]

this fag is such a moron. he should have been aborted

[Dudeitskevin22]

I dont know how exactly I came across this video, but your totally right. This fetus has no consciousness 'YET' which is why its NOT murder so it should be OK to abort it. If what JohananRaatz is saying is true then what about all the wasted sperm and eggs when people do use protection? Wouldn't that also be murder because those have the potential to become people too.

[dexterxyz]

No, you're wrong. It has potential, but is not actual. It devlops intelligence IF, and ONLY IF(by one potential), the thing/entity in question successfully goes through further, additional processes. An "IS" is not a potential, nor an "IF". I have a natural potential to die, to get cancor sores, it doesn't mean I'm in actual fact dead, or have sores.

[JohananRaatz]

"You can't say because the potential exists to become a human person, that it in actual fact is a person."

No that's not what I'm saying. It has the active potential (ie this potential is a natural manifestation of the entity in question) to develop intelligence therefore it already IS a human person.There's isn't any talk of BECOMING a human person.

BTW the sperm cell DNA argument, isn't valid.The fetal child has the set of fully active DNA of an actual organism the sperm cell does not.