Rig-ID-Grigri discussion.mpg

This is just a discussion comparing the Grigri, Rig, and I'D.

However, I switched to a Sony SX-44 camcorder for the video, it's a 720x480 format (max), and I noticed it lacked the sharpness I'm use to seeing with my Aiptek 1080P in the next density up - 1080x720, IIRC.

So I'm wondering if the difference is actually the difference in resolution or if maybe there's a focus problem in artificial light with the SX-44?

I'd much appreciate any thoughts or experiences about this.

Thanks.

Category:

Film & Animation

Tags:

• Rig
• Petzl Rig
• Petzl I'd
• Grigri
• RADS
• yo-yo
• yo yo
• ascender
• descender
• tree climbing
• treeclimbing
• limbwalking
• limb walking
• rope climbing
• SRT
• DdRT

[MrStankyStank]

Go rig, its way better, more functional, and if you really work off a rope you all would understand. I have 600 ft plus descents on slopes and cliffs and have rock drill, scale, chainsaw, blast, move up down side to side and the grigri doesn't work at all for that sort of stuff its for rock climbers and the id has that stupid safety lock crap, its twice as heavy, no spring in the handle, its huge. the rig is awesome!

[Tanglerwr]

@MrStankyStank

While I tend to agree, the Grigri and now the GG2 is much smaller compared to the Rig than the Rig is compared to the I'D. I know treeclimbers that use and prefer the GG due to the much smaller size and weight. The GG2 has a leveraged handle that makes it easier to start smoothly from a stopped position. For the apps you describe or any other work positioning, the Rig makes a lot of sense. For rec tree climbing, probably the Grigri makes more sense due to the lighter weight.

[gpetleskov]

It's a good descussion, but :

The Gri Gri is made For Sport climbing and not for industrial rope access work .

The Rig is made for industrial work at high.

Anyway , Thank you for the video

[Tanglerwr]

@gpetleskov

I agree completely! In fact, I have posted that very thing many times myself. I made the video oriented more toward recreational applications, but I do want to thank you for adding this very pertinent comment. And it's worth repeating - the Rig is made for industrial work positioning and the Grigri is really made for belaying.

I know many climbers pro and rec that climb on the Grigri and it works fine in that capacity. I really can't support the Grigri for work postioning though.

[moomoomooism]

question to the nice bloke who posted this

if the 'rig' is loaded with your weight and your on a rope mid way on a pitch and you lock off the 'rig' how easy is the 'rig' to unlock to carry on going down ?...prime example your passing a re-belay or deviation mid pitch.

can it be done with one hand (i would hope so. I also presume it would be used with a breaking carab. the person i need the info for is the wife as the petzl stop hurts her small hand if used at the moment she uses a rack by petzl

[Tanglerwr]

@cammcm1

The Eddy discussion is here:

(youtube.com/watch?v=lnTeLAUPt­c0)

The Eddy in use is here:

(youtube.com/watch?v=3RBDwyJo3­_o)

[Tanglerwr]

@cammcm1

Many rec climbers use the RADS system because of the escape potential. That friend that teaches in Panama, was climbing and was viciously attacked by bees. Another friend got caught in a sudden thunder storm, so a rapid exit is important. Plus tree climbers like to be able to go up and down and in and out without requiring a changeover.

For long ascents i.e. 170 - 200 feet, sometimes ropewalkers are used and sometimes a frog sit-stand, sometimes a RADS.

[Tanglerwr]

@cammcm1

I'm not pigeon holing anything - I stated that Grigris are used by rec and pro tree climbers.

A good friend of mine teaches researchers to climb in the Panama rain forests. He's been doing that for years. He teaches a RADS entry (Grigri based ascension) and then they probably switch to DdRT.

Again, if you watch my vids, you'd see I do a demo of the Eddy - I like the Grigri much better, esp. on small diameter rope. The Grigri is my 1st choice on PMI 9mm EzBend,.