Daniela Barcellona. Oh patria! ...Di tanti palpiti.
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@serenaluce ... ... As i'm a man, i'd rather listen to the soprano's version, more than the countertenor's one. Because i imagine my girlfriend's singing me that, hahaha!
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@serenaluce countertenors, to my hearing, are all mezzos or contraltos, with pitch differences from real ones. But you know, mezzos and contraltos not necessarily have to sing men's roles and i don't think they have to compete with countertenors because of their dark and heavy voices. It was very funny and strange when i heard a countertenor singing : "Alvaro ti amo", a role which was sung by sopranos. And because of this, i obviously prefered the women's versions... ...
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@serenaluce No doubt, tastes really differ! You know, i'm so accustomed to listening to sopranos (women) and my conception is different when listening to countertenors, despite they can hit high notes. I listen to this guys and for me all of them are approximately mezzos or contraltos
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@oceanodefuego1 It's OK if you were not that impressed by Spanos's rendition. Tastes really differ. But you know what? The quality of the recording is very poor and doesn't really reflect the strength of his voice though shows all the beauty of the sound. I was very curious to hear him live and have my own opinion. I came to his recital. In reality, believe it or not, his voice is very STRONG and he can blow away anybody with it! Also he can hit very high notes singing in exquisite male SOPRANO!
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@oceanodefuego1 ...as they can have lovers in charge of opera productions, and men prefer to see "lesbian shows". It's so exciting for them to hear one woman sing to another pretending that she is a man e.g. "Sol da te mio dolce amore" though it's a love aria when a man is singing it to a woman and also see 2 women huggging each other. OK, before there were just FALSETTISTS who couldn't replace castrati as their voices were too small, FLAT and sexless, but now we have CTs with PROPER technique.
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@oceanodefuego1 You know, I agree with you too that the sun rises for everybody. But it's more about real life. Actually, the world is in generally ruled by MEN, not women, and I'm as a woman can feel some discrimination from men, but when it comes to the musical world and CTs in part it seems to me that it's an adverse discrimination that CTs are usually considered all gays though it's not true, and any bass can be straight or gay too, but women traditionally receive such roles as they have...
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@serenaluce Do you know? I've already listened to your beloved N. Spanos, and to my hearing, his voice is too similar to Daniela's one, with certain differences, obviously. I don't know if he can hit the high note sung by Barcellona in this aria at 6.52, 53, because it'd be interesting to be heard. I know you'll kill me! But that's what I noted :)
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@serenaluce all right, I totally agree with you! Finally i can listen to a man or woman singing this aria. I only like the sound and what it makes me feel, but i have already explained my reasons. And about competition and discrimination i can say, as we say in Spanish: The sun rises for everybody, I don't know if this saying is similar as in my language, but i think you can understand it, can't you?
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@oceanodefuego1 You see how different all the people are. Actually, for you it's no problem to listen to such roles in women's interpretations. You go with the flow , and it's mainstream. But there are also such people like me who think the same but are shy to express it openly not to be attacked from all sides by traditionalists. But all tastes are legitimate, and if there's a demand there should be an offer too. But it's really a matter of competition and discrimination of CTs by women...
Come si capisce dal nick ho la mia bella età ... Credo si stia facendo un pò di confusione. Se ricordiamo Horne, Valentini (la mia preferita), Baltsa, Dupuy, Berganza e qulche rara volta la Podles .... ovvio che la musica era ben tutt'altra; ma credo che nell'odierno panorama musicale ci faccia una degnissima figura e si distingua anche per certe finezze vocali. Non ha il fisico da indossatrice ... ??? Lo aveva forse la Caballè ... eppure .... !!!! Avanti così Daniela e buona fortuna.
TheMenelik60 2 years ago 6
@serenaluce I think that of looking at two women hugging each other in a man-woman scene is due to cultural factors, even in real life, you, women, are more allowed to kiss one each other. In many societies, two men doing the same is considered a gay demonstration. and in opera it happened the same because this heritage stems from castrati. Farinelli, you know, sang in female roles most of the time. His voice of soprano was suitable to do so.
oceanodefuego1 6 months ago