Open Forum part 2

Modified Open Interactive Session

"GRP-Moro Conflict: Is there an end in sight? Human Security and Human Development Revisited"

Date: September 19, 2008 Venue: UP School of Economics Auditorium, Diliman, Quezon City, Philippines

Jointly organized by the Human Development Network and the UP School of Economics

Sponsored by the United Nations Development Programme

For more information, visit http://www.hdn.org.ph.

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People & Blogs

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• hdn
• upse
• undp
• grp-moro
• conflict
• moa-ad
• human
• development
• security

[pwsoftwareplus]

Kayang Mabuhay ng taga MINDANAO kahit walang ano man na matatanggap mula sa national government ng Pilipinas. Ang mas magandang tanong ano ang mangyayari sa Pilipinas pag hindi na kontrolado ang MINDANO?

[kamao34]

@tidus108 di ba sa ngayon san ba kumukuha ng pondo ang mindanao anong gobyerno ang nag popondo sa pangangailangan ng mindanao? diba pilipinas.alam nyo po kung anong meron tayo sa mindanao?"TERRITORIAL MENTALITY" ganito kami,di kami ganyan,ganun sa amin,di kami ganun,dito lang kami,hanggang dyan lng kayo,..kung magpapatuloy po ito kawawa ang susunod na henerasyon ng mindanao.

[kamao34]

@tidus108 kahit anong memorandum pa ang isulong dyan sa mindanao kahit buong alpabeto pa ang gamitin para itawag sa kung anuman. kung meron mga tiwaling grupo sa mindanao walng mangyayari.lalo na yung mga nagkukubli sa relihiyon para sa personal na interes.kung sakaling maipasa ang MOA-AD sa tingin nyo ba matatahimik at di manggugulo ang mga MNLF,MILF....ito ang mahirap eh ginigisa ang gobyerno sa sariling mantika bakit kailangan magkaroon ng sharing agreement?

[tidus108]

ang masasabi ko lng sa mga hndi nakakaintindi ng MOA-AD jan na bgla na lng satsat ng satsat ng wlang Halaga e basahin niyo muna ang MOA-AD o Memorandum of Agreement on Ancestral Domain.. Pra maintindihan niyo wag kau dadak ng dadak.. at higit sa lahat wag niyo ikumpara ang MNLF sa MILF dhil sobrang lau ng pagkakaiba!!

[TheMuslimJesus]

Aspiration and MOA-AD compromised reality is different

MOA-AD is not Separation even though Independence was originally aspired MOA-AD is not even whole Mindanao though the map of mindanao was in MILF logo

meaning reality of MOA-AD is different

Now, will you grab this Historic hance of Peace in our lifetime?

A best compromise that did not happen for past 110yrs?

have you read it or just the hearsay?

get MOA-AD link in my ytube acct

[TheMuslimJesus]

MOA-AD provide solution to the rootcause of conflict

75:25 sharing agreement means it is still part of the country

but the 75% should remain in mindanao for its economy & ppl

for a long time even at present the wealth of mindanao is not shared to them..

support MOA-AD a peaceful alternative to present cycle of violence

[TheMuslimJesus]

in MOA-AD, theres a sharing of revenue agreement of 75:25, the bigger share will stay for the mindanao economy

by that 'creative concept'- that will solve the misery of the bangsamoro...

the 25% can be used for Luzon & Bisayas plus the billion war budget can be used for the betterment of the rest of the country...

plus the Peace environment will greatly help all common people.

[labtec2050]

They want a separate Islamic state because that's the very reason why they formed the MILF, a break-away group of the MNLF.

So, Mr. Mastura here was just downplaying the word "aspiration" because the underlying motive of this whole issue in Mindanao is very clear. If, Mr. Mastura is saying that the MILF or the MOA document isn't asking for an Islamic Mindanao state, then why are we on the table talking? A lot of these issues like ancestral lands have been addressed by the ARMM.

[labtec2050]

If there was a chance for the MILF to prove to the Philippines and the whole wide world that that they really care for the wellfare of the Filipinio Moros, then the ARMM was their chance. They can make and implement their own laws and can request for more resources from the government if they so choose. But no, they don't want the ARMM. The truth is, the MILF want a separate Islamic state.

[labtec2050]

The culprit? Those Muslims that the Filipino Moros or MNLF have put into office are corrupt, and the so called MILF has done nothing to help elevate the situation of the Filipino Moros in Mindanao. Instead, they opted to continue a futile war until the whole of Mindanao is separated. They can't even take care of a few regions, what more of the whole Mindanao?