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@gamhazell Christianity is an allegory...nothing more.
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It is interesting to note how many people having been 'converted' under finney's ministry actually walked the walk. Finney rejected the idea of original sin and embraced an unbiblical pelagianism that could hardly logically lead to an experience with Christ based on what He has done. How can one move away from the substitutionary atonement and still have an 'existential' experience with Christ? The experience is dependent on the Historical events of the cross not experience for experience sake.
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@gamhazell Finney was far more pietistic and had a real grasp of spiritual psychology. I read his Systematic Theology as a young Christian and was greatly inspired by his descriptions of what constituted the New Birth.
Finney moved away from forensic views of atonement towards a genuine existential at-one-ment with Christ. Funney would never have had it that all you need is faith as belief in the supposed axioms of theology. For Finney you had to walk the walk.
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@01blackpete1 Really? Please explain. In what way is this true?
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@artlinefree To be quite honest, this isnt just simple nitpicking at someone who died a long time ago. This is dealing with a pervasive ideology that has influenced how we operate as ministers of the gospel and as Christians. Also, this isn't digging into Finney's for that illusive flaw (as a needle in a hay stack). It is pointing out blatant problems with Finney's theology and his methods of evangelism. These things are not hard to find because they are in-your-face as far as what he believed.
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Finney was head and shoulders above the Calvinists.
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The things that really stand out to me about what Finney taught was,that it was man's job to bring about salvation and that it's non-sense to believe Jesus' righteousness can absolutely be imputed to a believer,he taught that man can only have his past sins forgiven,THEN it's up to them to keep themselves saved.This is no where near what the gospel is.
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Talk about "burned over districts." Go to the historically Protestantized regions of Europe. How many people in Scandinavia, or the Prot. regions of Germany, or Britain; bother going to Church? How many are atheist there? This is just the logicall terminus of Protestantism itself. What was the impact of "revivalism" in other regions, like the South, or Mid-West? I can show you all the old Methodist churchs in my region. These people saved American Christianity.
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Entire obedience does not imply any change in the substance of the soul or body, for this the law does not require; and it would not be oblaigory if it did, because the requirment would be inconsistent with natural justice, and, therefore, not law. Entire obedience is the entire consecration of the power, as they are, to God. It does not imply any change in them,
but simply the right use of them.
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Thanks so much for these WHI clips- I really have never heard anything like this- and am having a hard time figuring it all out now- I have been a Christian for 10 years- and God is STILL opening my eyes- and to the most simplest basic Christian doctrines- PRAISE HIS NAME!- Jesus is LORD!
Finney's writing helped me a lot.
It seems to be the modern type preacher's who do the damage.
Osteen,Hinn,Murdock,Munsey etc.
We should all pray for revival.
artlinefree 4 years ago
I have a link to some things that I'd encourage you to read about what Finney believed. Would you like me to send it to you?
LaneCh 4 years ago
I have lots of books about Finney,and I like him.
We can pick at anyone if we look hard enough.
I don't see it as productive to slam someone who died so long ago.
Thank you anyway.
artlinefree 4 years ago
I take it you are protetstant. (If I'm wrong, then correct me.) If that's so, why do you think it's alright to examine the errors of Roman Catholicism to determine what is true and good, and not the heresy that Finney taught. We shouldn't be respecters of persons when judging error. Finney denied the substitutionary atonement, original sin, and other key doctrines of the faith. I don't post videos like this just to knock "great heroes of the faith." I do it to expose heresies.
LaneCh 4 years ago