Richard Hell - Tonight Live 1993
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@manicbabyshambles123 You should review lyrics like "Anal Cunt" and "Expose Yourself to Kids". They evoke powerful emotions. Hell sings about love and apathy, Allin sings about vileness and the dark side of humanity. They are both raw an primal but different approaches. Hell was "yeah whatever love it or leave it I don't care", Allin was "I'm gonna make you fuckin puke and scar you for life". Both attitudes are punk. Punk is too often predictable and facile though it's true
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@KingFahtah Well you can't have interesting songs unless you can write them. I agree that punk is about bluster and energy, but where do you draw the line before it becomes predictable and facile? Personally I think you need the songs to back up the bluster, otherwise it's just crass and pointless after a while. GG Allin was just a shock jock, who's only good song was 'When I Die'. That did capture something interesting, no matter how genuinely unpleasant.
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@KingFahtah Punk was not a fuck you to professionalism. The original bands were amazing musicians. They just didn't subscribe to rock looking or sounding one way. They wanted to be as real as possible. GG had some great songs IMO but being a wild man does not make you "more punk". Sid Vicious killed himself and ruined the Pistols with that mentality.
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@manicbabyshambles123 Like I've stated elsewhere, punk is about attitude and aesthetic and bluster. A lot of, most of it is for show. sex pistols where possibly the most manufactured band of all time even if they had some interesting songs. When you bring musicianship and good songwriting, which I don't hear a lot of on Voidoids albums either, it becomes mainstream rock really. Punk, real punk is a fuck you to musical professionalism.
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@KingFahtah GG Allin had no songwritting prowess to back up his attitude. Who cares whether he was more mental? He hardly left an indelible mark on punk, GG Allin was a complete fake and if he did mean what he said, which I doubt, then all his was at best was a misogynistic rapist who got what was coming to him.
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@KingFahtah GG Allin also SUCKED. BAD. Who talks about how awesome that song he wrote was? NO ONE. Who reveres him for his guitar playing? NO ONE. Gee, Richard Hell has all of that.
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@NathalieVicious its good to know people know the true roots of punk :). i probably wrote the last comment a lil under the yeah hahaha (reading it now, i read youre comment wrong haha sowee)
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@KingFahtah Hahahahaha! WRONG.
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@robert101455 What the hell has punk got to do with talent. They are supposed to be mutually exclusive
The man who made Johnny Rotten look sweet? WTF? does she even know who Johnny Rotten is? lol.
NathalieVicious 2 years ago 18
good post-----richard is the real thang-----a true poet,,the vanguard of the revolution,,,,,,,viva hell-----
maxziz 2 years ago 9