Worst Person in The World analysis March 31st 2009

Just like the title.

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[johnedwards1968]

I'd like to thank you for the polite discourse.  It's obvious we have different viewpoints on these things, but at least you've been respectful. I hope I haven't said anything too offensive.

[gamingeagle19]

No you haven't said anything too bad. At first I thought it would turn sour but it didn't so that's good.

[gamingeagle19]

He never saw anything out of the ordinary. It looked like a prison. Basketball court, food, tv, books. They just had the obvious extra rooms for interrogation. But they didn't do it to everyone. Only the few that were determined to be part of Al-queda.

[therrydicule]

Everybody know that forcing people to go in rehab don't work, because the persons do not see they have a problem. You cannot fix something you don't know it's broke.

But on number 2, I think O'Reilly made it easy to make fun of himself... The question I ask is...Why Bill-o say he will not go in Spain? This does not make anything ;) I think he should have say that he did not agree with this choice...

[johnedwards1968]

Fair enough! I don't really think that someone in that situation would be shown 'enhanced interrogation' techniques or equipment, but whatever.

Bill O'Reilly has consistently defended those techniques, and much worse, and so he can hardly be relied upon as an independant examiner.

My final point on this whole thing, is that the intelligence agencies determined any information they got from those techniques was LESS than useless(from Khalid Sheik Mohammed). It lead to false leads.

[gamingeagle19]

actually I think I got it mixed up.

"We only use extradition to get rid of criminals who commit crimes in their own/other countries!"

I think that's what I'm thinking of.

I think another reason that people like Gitmo is because if some of the terrorists were to escape while on American soil then they could do damage. Every person that has actually visited Gitmo hasn't reported any misconduct. O'Reilly has been a few times and took an extensive tour.>>>

[johnedwards1968]

I didn't know that. I just assumed the US had the same rules as Canada!

Here we prosecute for internal crimes, no matter what the origin of the criminal. If an American committed murder in Canada, he would stand trial here. We only use extradition to get rid of criminals who commit crimes in their own/other countries!

Are you sure your justice system is different?

[gamingeagle19]

Look, I haven't heard the entire speech that Obama made. Bill said he some great moments in the speech and showed those but he didn't like how he massaged Europe's ego in an attempt to get their support but he didn't bash Obama for it. As for your last point, if a foreigner commits a crime here they get extradicted back to that country. If a mexican illegal immigrant gets caught they have a hearing to determine what happens to them but they don't get a trial.

[johnedwards1968]

The other point I would bring up is this. If a foreigner commits a crime in the United States, where do they stand trial??? Of course the US courts are not just for US citizens. That's a laughable proposition.

[johnedwards1968]

No No NO! You don't get off that easy. O'Reilly deliberately cut out the criticism of Europe to make it SOUND as if Obama was running down America. I respect you having a different opinion, but at least BE HONEST!

If they get military tribunals, then they are prisoners of war, and must be treated as such. I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here, just showing you the problems with a military action, which is outside of a formal declaration of war.