Truth, Veritas, and Pluralism

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[mp4401]

i just came across this account

are you erich kofmel?

[randyhelzerman]

No, i'm Randy Helzerman

[eirefrance]

But if you want your great-great-grandkids to inherit those books, you could get them each put through a alkali solution and stored properly in a temperature/humidity controlled environment that never fluctuates a few degrees from 60f. That should only cost you a few grand a year.

;)

[eirefrance]

Well, I have no webcam, and may soon have no job, so I'm certainly not wasting money on one.  But, to begin with, each should be standing straight up and well-supported on both sides. As the spine bends, it can break the binding. Especially with todays books, because they often have hot wax glue binding, which is shit, or overswen binding, which is strong but very rigid, so a bend could damage it over time. You'll be fine, I just instinctively cringe when I see that.

[randyhelzerman]

lol, yeah, everybody knows that the best indicator of truth isn't whether most of the scholars agrees on it, but whether heyalun agrees on it :-)

[heyalun]

I don't need a scholar to teach me basic math and temporal concepts. If I say something happened immediately and someone else says they saw that it already happened when they come along later, to call that a contradiction indicates a severe logical lack.

And scholars have been invalidating God's word for ages. (Mk 7:8) Consensus does not equate to truth. Neither does it change the fact that there are multiple understandings to these texts and you've chosen the contradictory ones.

[randyhelzerman]

LOL heyalun, good one! Yeah dude, virtually every scholar of the New Testament, left wing or right wing, liberal or conservative, agrees with me on this one. But I am a applying the principle of charity here: if there are contradictions there, there has to be a good reason for them to be there.

[heyalun]

Here we agree about nominal Christianity.

This also gets to the deeper meaning of the fig tree. It gave the appearance of having fruit. Jesus spoke of "those from the synagogue of Satan who say they are Jews, and yet they are not but are lying" who gave appearance of serving God. (Mat 23:5; Rom 9:6; Rev 3:9)Their fate would be as the fig tree. The same would go for those you mentioned.

"Every tree, then, that does not produce fine fruit is to be cut down and thrown into the fire."-Mt 3:10

[Kierketaard]

Well yes, immediately prior to that Christ had driven the traders from the temple - since they do what Christians do these days, use the sabbath as a way to make money - you know: super churches, the NFL, neo-cons, all that.

But then he came to a fig tree that seemed to mock his anti-capitalist attitude, since it bore no fruit. So he blasted it.

Afterward he responded to questions presented to him by puzzling the questioners. I've been just about that pissed off too many times for my own good.

[heyalun]

Kierketaard, Mt 21:19 definitely has more important meaning than a fig tree being cursed and the verses immediately after explain it. It's clearly NOT vengeful spite. It's an object lesson.

It helps to read the surrounding scriptures to get an understanding of what Jesus is doing (or to get an understanding of any verse for that matter).