Re: "Disproving Atheism"

This is a video response to a chap called 5thWatcher who claims that free will and omniscience are compatible.

The original video is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcNeuukvBzE&feature=related

Category:

Education

Tags:

• Compatibalism
• incompatibalism
• free will
• determinism
• philosophy
• theism
• religion
• atheism
• decision
• choice
• coin toss
• physics

[darkrideus]

If omnipotence is considered to mean "all powerful" and omniscience is considered to mean "all knowing", then having both attributes is problematic. If X is omniscient, X cannot make changes because X would already have known of X's intervention in the first place. Knowing the future removes X's own "free will", and X cannot change the future, both limitations which negate omnipotence.

[QuantumWarhorse]

Fair enough, I don't know about god's omniscience any more than you do. However, my video specifically addresses those who do believe in an omniscient deity of any sort.

[Khuno2]

Fat Tommy proved that omniscience is compatible with freewill, I think...long time ago. Take a man who decides to sit down one hundred years from now, to the moment. If the 3-O god were to exist, then it'd know this. But, it's not that this type of god knows this that causes the man to sit; rather, that the man freely chose to sit is the reason that this type of god knows this. Difference between de re and de dicto necessity. I've never come acros a coherent definition of omniscience.

[petestrat07]

Sorry but you are talking rubbish. If this is the world that God intented and has orgastrated in the past then he has seriously fucked up. If this was the case, the God you are rambling on about is an absolute failure. A lazy, iresponsible God who tortures his children with disease, war, starvation, torture,confusion and all the while remains invisible. A God such as this doesn't even deserve worship. It seems we have better morals than God.

Sorry dude, you've got the wrong God. God is nature.

[Naturallyskeptic]

The point is simple. you talk Bollocks

[TheMePerspective]

@Naturallyskeptic sorry... what was your point?

[Naturallyskeptic]

Sir, I’m not an American so I do not wish to appear rude to your culture. But please, if you are going to speak utter rubbish then please have the decency to shave off that silly facial fluff. Its bad enough having to listen to your mindless drone without having to watch you emulate some sort of goat. Now pack it in.

[jinnypigs4life]

aye you hit the nail on the head with the knowing the future and free will both colliding with each other, however trying to bring easily understood fact to Christians is pretty far fetched. Another good point is that if god knows the future and all the horrible things humans are going to do, why doesn't he stop it? Seems god is both omnipotent and malevolent. But anyways, good video. :)

[MeHimself]

Even if the future is set absolutely, humans and all that shaped the future were still free to do what they wanted; they just chose to do it that way. Knowledge of the future includes no exertion of influence over the future.