John Piper - Can I enjoy art produced by unbelievers and glorify God?
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"Bask in nudity..... bask in fifty F-words...bask in a world view that is shot through with arrogance, through the core..." Is he talking about rappers? HA! Rappers are some of the most religious musicians out there. If I had a nickel for every crucifix hanging around a rappers neck. They may not be "good" Christians, but they're definitely not secular.
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@TheBoxingCannabyte "IS" and "ONLY" are terms in making a philosophical statement. Science and philosophy are interconnect, I'm not trying to deny that if that's what you think my aim is. I'm saying that there are many things we can't put under a microscope in order to find out if they are certifiably true.
Redington931 2 months ago
@Redington931, but logic is part of the very fabric of the scientific method. Which we've been using since we firs used our sniffers to tell if food has gone bad or not, hell, before then. The scientific method IS the ONLY way we have of discovery and verification. Because the scientific method is us, a very extension of our senses and brain. And that, my friend, is not philosophy, that is fact.
TheBoxingCannabyte 3 months ago
@TheBoxingCannabyte I think it can be misleading to use words like "only". It would mean that you are excluding other viable ways to make certain of the truth of what people believe in. Namely logic and perhaps historical accounts along with it as well.
Redington931 3 months ago
@Redington931, For the sake of argument, you're saying that a philosophical claim that only with science can you find beauty in having everything you believe proven wrong is invalidated because no one with a scientific background, or any peer-reviewed study has been placed on said philosophical claim? Or are you saying that I didn't elaborate on the logic behind it? As if this is the place for it, lol...
TheBoxingCannabyte 3 months ago
@TheBoxingCannabyte To state that it's only science is making a philosophical claim. Science did not experiment to prove you right in saying that. Logic must be necessary just as much as the science you speak of is; since that science is based on logic.
Redington931 4 months ago
I continue to search for hints of insight and instead get met with a lot of poetry and style, but very little substance underneath. Across all religions you can find the level of passion in believers like the comments below, and the people on the screen, etc. But only with peer-reviewed science do you see people finding beauty in putting all of their beliefs up on the chopping block and subjecting them to careful and educated change.
TheBoxingCannabyte 5 months ago
immensely eye-opening. God bless.
xRisingForcex 5 months ago
Mr. John Piper has shown extreme wisdom in discerning the defaults of a world filled with evil deceptions, where humanity has bought into Satan’s momentary delights, but leads to utter destruction. Enter ye in by the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many are they that enter in thereby. Matthew 7:13.
1LonePuma 7 months ago
I think a person can still enjoy secular entertainment only to a certain degree. We should not take pleasure in seeing nudity in films or hearing endless curse words like John Piper is saying but a person can take time out to enjoy a movie or a secular book as long as they live and continue to live a righteous life and always put God first. The world has become so entertainment obsessed and that is not good at all. Even I am guilty.
lifeInAFallenWorld22 9 months ago