"Cease to Exist" Pt. 10 of 10

"Cease To Exist" (2008. Documentary) explores the music motive to the Manson murders and uncovers Charles Manson's relationship with Beach Boys' drummer Dennis Wilson and record producer Terry Melcher.

Written and Directed by Ryan Oksenberg

Running time: 85mins

Watch the whole thing streaming @
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1337593/

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[cwarren165]

i realize that this film is largely composed of bits and pieces from several other documentaries. but much of it is composed of footage that is either original to this film or very hard to find. at any rate there is a lot here i have seen no where else. i also think that this film gives the most coherent view of not the murders themselves, but the events and ideas which led up to them, and presents by far the most convincing, reasonable motive i've ever seen. by far the best docmntry out ther

[Oksenberg]

@cwarren165 Thanks for watching!

[theRoseofmyheart]

That was really excellent-I think maybe the best picture of Manson's world I have seen. Thank you and good luck to you in all your work.

[Oksenberg]

@theRoseofmyheart Appreciate it! Thanks for taking the time to watch!

[jaxnvillecyco]

excellent work Oksenberg. one of the best pieces on the Manson family i ever saw.

[Oksenberg]

@jaxnvillecyco Hell yeah. Thanks!

[Whippsy1]

Good, rare footage.

[cwarren165]

@cwarren165 so the things charlie had been talking about during the last couple weeks was to them like an eternity. when today is all there is then whatever happened this morning has been happening since time began, ya dig ;)

seriously though this makes more sense then any other thing out there. music, "no!" anger, frustration, frustrated action without regard to past or future... BAM

recipe for bad things

[cwarren165]

@cwarren165 all that talk about the black man coming down and helter skelter rising, and sstuff, which flynn and maybe a couple other took to the cops was a result of the paranoia charlie felt hen he thought he'd killed a black panther, and since that had happened so recently it was fresh on there minds and so they said "he was always talking about blackie comin down!" remember, to them there was no time... theyd tried very haard to escape time...

[cwarren165]

@cwarren165 i studied some philosophy in school and one of the most elementary things i learned was that the simplest logical explanation is usually the best explanation. this is why the "pissed musician angle" as presented in this film makes so much more sense than anything else critics have said. the whole helter skelter idea, especially, is way far out BS created by bugliosi et. al. in order to bring manson down with the conspiracy rap. i think he fgred it ws so wild ppl would hfta believe

[kuba99pp]

well done and interesting, still it should be more of Watson in all the documentaries, as for the murders themselves.

[TheDevilsBusiness]

Though I think the "pissed musician" angle is inaccurate, and as I said on another part a lot of using other documentaries, still, a nice piece of work here. There is another Cease to Exist doc from earlier on but this is cool.

[BlindMelon1993]

i myself think it Terry Melcher gave him that deal, there would have been no killings

[Eddy1963]

Great compilation work Ryan. That's what it's all about!!!