#5 Why Bhikkhuni ordination

Ayya Tathaaloka talks about the Bhikkhuni ordination

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[foyin852]

南無阿彌陀佛

[openbuddhistforum]

✿⊱╮••●●♥♥❤✿ Peace, loving kindness and wisdom without borders to all ••●●♥♥❤✿

[venusbuddha]

I support this too.^_^

[dharmathai]

To my dismay. Happily, it must also be said that there are also still a great deal of noble practitioners within the sangha, who are practising their austerities with great diligence. It is a shame that thailand's Buddhist ruling organism is being so stubborn and showing such disregard for Lord Buddha's decree. The white crow is now arriving in Thailand and will take on the task of preserving and nourishing the damma

[dharmathai]

I have had deep and disturbing discussions with Thai Bhikkhus here about this matter and must sadly report that the high disregard for facing the truth of Buddhas decree on this matter is revealing the intense level of patriarchal "dhiti" and ignorance which is present in the Thai Sangha. Many seemingly "enlightened" people quickly reveal themselves to be both ignorant and aggressive when confronted with this topic, proving that a great deal of pretentiousness is present in the buddhasasana.

[dharmathai]

I myself am a Bhikkhu in Thailand and intend to support this matter as much as possible without of course involving myself in any action that may be inauspicious to my practise of upheka within the framework of Brahmavihara 4.

[dharmathai]

The Buddha permitted his own (step)mother to ordain and thus laid down the rule for this matter. All buddhist organisms and academics who obstruct the ordination of women are patriarchal and comitting an extremely grave offence against the Buddhasasana.

[indigoblue66]

kirk. Even though I am about to ordain after many years as a lay practitioner, I'd say that a lay person can realize nibbana just as an ordained person can. Being ordained means you have less distractions, making it easier to focus your attention on the practice. The pali canon have examples of lay men and women attaining nibbana. But I would say it depends on your amount of dedication and devotion to the practice. Being robes is no guarantee for realizing nibbana, it is what you make of it.

[kirk7524875248]

I don't know why anyone would have a problem with what she is saying. She's just speaking the truth, the Buddha truth, that Anyone, with or without robes, can attain at least the first level of enlightenment. But what about Nibbana? Can "Anyone" attain that? Or, according to the Pali Canon, do you have to don the robes and completely dedicate your life to achieve that final level of Nibanna? Is all we lay people can hope for is a better life next time?