William Lane Craig vs Theodore Drange (HQ) 9/11

A debate at the University of Illinois between Professors William Lane Craig and Theodore Drange on the question of God's existence

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[emopeacekid]

Wives obeying their husband, an objective moral value? ABSOLUTELY! women need to know their place! JK Ladies. =)=).

[MoonwalkerWorshiper]

Why do you confuse philosophy with morality here? And why rise to an argument about something that should be very clear.

1) Atheists believes nobody provides them with moral values, they just have opinions. No duty to others.

2) No an atheist is a person who maintains a god cannot exist or be a fact. I don't know who's claiming that to be a moral code. Do you?

3) This isn't even a point or an argument, it's just whimsical whining. Perhaps you should mature or something.

[adstanra]

The Theist is left with the "unknown good reasons defense" to defend how an all-loving deity allows (designed) all this suffering. They want us to disconnect our intellect from our emotions-how absurd. there may be unknown reasons for any ridiculous proposition and the only thing this argument does is point out that we can never be certain about anything--but we already know that and it doesn't make the good god hypothesis rational.Drange did a decent job

[6thwing]

@emopeacekid Yeah! Wives should disobey their husbands!!! And while we're at it, let's go COMPLETELY against Biblical teachings and say that Husbands should NOT treat their wives with love and understanding and that husbands and wives should NOT be faith to one another.

[xchris1800]

Is Theodore Drange a Doctor? When I was five years old I could answer his "profound" questions. Poor Guy.

[othellopiano]

Dr. Drange got up to the mic for this segment and was like "ehhh crap.. he's right, i don't have any good responses, so i'll just restate stuff and mumble useless banter."

[Set4Life22]

WLC= Atheist Eater

[TheOtherTrueGod]

You see, MoonwalkerWorshiper, whatever you say about the other position applies to yours too.

If there's a god (which begs the question anyway), then a moral code is his/her/its opinion.

If it's the god of the Bible, it doesn't care about the out-group - no duty to others.

And still no evidence for any god.

Your position is nonsense.

You're a fraud.

[TheOtherTrueGod]

You're making no sense.

How does committing genocide equate to duty to others? You wear your irrationality proudly.

[TheOtherTrueGod]

Atheism is a philosophical position about gods. You weirdly stick morality on it. You contradict yourself.

1) Theism believes a deity provides moral values - these values are the deity's opinions.

How does atheism equate to no duty? Non-sequitur. Atheism isn't a moral code.

2) You're the one claiming atheism is a moral code, for some weird reason.

3) You contradict yourself yet again. But maybe you're starting to emerge from incoherence.

4) So where did the moral code of Buddhism come from?