The law of biogenesis, followed by the law of natural explanations

Another creationist theist claim down the drain, well, not exactly, but i do think 'it has it's problems' in the way those theists are using it :)

And i am coining 'the law of natural explanations'

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[mindwis3]

@5tonyvvvv

"Of course, many homochiral polymers are required for life"

It did not matter which chirality got the upper hand, either one will lead to more of the same type.

Chance is not relevant in the way you describe since it is an additive process, to ever more complex molecules.

You can not take proteins catalized by enzymes in todays life as the needed result for synthesis 3 Bn years ago.

well, you can but it's irrelevant.

[mindwis3]

@5tonyvvvv

"You are misquoting me"

- our full comments are here, for everyone to verify.

"and you are very Ignorant and stubborn, and you really dont understand...MORON!! "

- thanks, coming from you that's quite the compliment, really divine too :)

"Natural processes can not accomplish this."

- right, that's why there's plenty on this planet.

"The precise Code to start building Proteins"

no code, catalysts.

[5tonyvvvv]

The probability of forming one homochiral polymer of N monomers by chance = 2–N. For a small protein of 100 amino acids, this probability = 2–100 = 10–30. Note, this is the probability of any homochiral polypeptide. The probability of forming a functional homochiral polymer is much lower, since a PRECISE amino acid sequence is required in many places. Of course, many homochiral polymers are required for life, so the probabilities must be compounded. Time and chance is not an option!!

[5tonyvvvv]

@mindwis3 You are misquoting me, and you are very Ignorant and stubborn, and you really dont understand Chirality at all. You need INFORMATION MORON!! The precise Code to start building Proteins! Natural processes can not accomplish this.

[mindwis3]

@5tonyvvvv

Urrey miller created amino acids, the things you claimed could not form.

Now you are sliding the window to need proteins formed....

It's all fine with me dude, you've commented errors enough for all to see, and your profanity might win you over some simpletons, keep 'm :)

You may even believe "spoken into existence" is more likely then synthesis... fine with me :)

i won't delete any of your comments, so by all means show me your divine ways of thinking.

[5tonyvvvv]

@mindwis3 Miller did not produce the molecules necessary for life!! He made a Tar! with no INFORMATION! and a Racemic Mixture!!!

[mindwis3]

@5tonyvvvv

'Miller did not produce one SINGLE PROTEIN!! The amino acids could not be used MORON!!"

No one claimed the experiment produced a protein, you're shooting air now...

'Left and Right handed Do not work" depends on what yo use it for... some 'diet' sugars work precisely because of that.

You're not saying anything new here, just irrelevant stuff.

[5tonyvvvv]

All amino acids in proteins are 'LEFT-handed', while all sugars in DNA and RNA, and in the metabolic pathways, are 'RIGHT-handed'.homochirality

A 50/50 mixture of left- and right-handed forms is called a racemate or racemic mixture!!!!. Which life cant USE!!.there is ZERO chance of proteins forming by chance or on a primordial earth or even under amazing conditions in labs.and ZERO chemistry to support it..all we do is copy information,thats not creating anything!

[5tonyvvvv]

@mindwis3 Dummy, Miller did not produce one SINGLE PROTEIN!! The amino acids could not be used MORON!! Left and Right handed Do not work!!!

[mindwis3]

@5tony

"LOL.polarized light, another ASSUMPTION to make you atheist chemistry work! Amino acids break down to quickly for any kind of light to help! Its all ASSUMPTIONS!! "

Your "understanding" shines again Tony.

Polarized light is not used to "help" create, or to make anything "work".

It's just used to determine what the chirality of i.e. a sugar is.

"it Lacked Chirality!!!"

Wrong again, the experiment produced both types of chiraity, so it was not homochiral.

You're not making much sense,