interesting, i have the speech in front of me and all he says is : "The only thing this plan would eliminate is the hundreds of billions of dollars in waste and fraud"
On September 9th he claimed 622 BILLION in "fraud and waste" in a speech. That's how he plans on paying for the new behemoth! I mean, come on, who is he kidding. There's no way they are going to save 622 billion and no way they aren't going to get taken for 10 times that if they pass this with a public option.
no, no, not fraud... "fraud and waste". Fraud is a mere 68 billion. Do you know what the "waste" is? Those are the tests that you won't be able to get anymore on medicaid because the death panels.... I mean bureaucrats don't think you need them because they cost too much. You and your doctor's opinions won't matter anymore. It's not "rationing" though, it "waste". It's like "Jobs saved or created" when unemployment is skyrocketing. It's make believe.
Can you point me where Obama said that there is 500 Billion in fraud ? This figures seems so absurd that i have hard time believing anyone would even think it is accurate.
Ask yourself this. Why haven't we allowed health insurance to compete across state lines, reformed frivolous law suits, banned annual or lifetime caps, banned precondition limitations, allowed individuals and small businesses to ban together to get group rates, and all of the other FREE things we could have done to reduce costs and protect patients. Why spend a trillion that we all know is going to turn into multi-trillions? POWER. That's all it is. POWER.
I totally get it. You want all people insured and no limits. We don't need a public option to get that. If there's 500 billion a year in fraud and waste in medicare like Obama says, that alone is $25,000 a YEAR for every American citizen who can't afford health insurance and doesn't qualify for current government run insurance. Don't you see this is a huge rip off? It has NOTHING to do with covering the uninsured and EVERYTHING to do with a power grab.
interesting, i have the speech in front of me and all he says is : "The only thing this plan would eliminate is the hundreds of billions of dollars in waste and fraud"
Where did you came up with 622 billions ?
Melpheos1er 2 years ago
Please stop this death panels nonsense. This makes you look more stupid than you are.
Melpheos1er 2 years ago
On September 9th he claimed 622 BILLION in "fraud and waste" in a speech. That's how he plans on paying for the new behemoth! I mean, come on, who is he kidding. There's no way they are going to save 622 billion and no way they aren't going to get taken for 10 times that if they pass this with a public option.
BriansVideoHobby 2 years ago
no, no, not fraud... "fraud and waste". Fraud is a mere 68 billion. Do you know what the "waste" is? Those are the tests that you won't be able to get anymore on medicaid because the death panels.... I mean bureaucrats don't think you need them because they cost too much. You and your doctor's opinions won't matter anymore. It's not "rationing" though, it "waste". It's like "Jobs saved or created" when unemployment is skyrocketing. It's make believe.
BriansVideoHobby 2 years ago
now, this is smart talk finaly
All these options should have been included in the plan along a public option.
Melpheos1er 2 years ago
Can you point me where Obama said that there is 500 Billion in fraud ? This figures seems so absurd that i have hard time believing anyone would even think it is accurate.
Melpheos1er 2 years ago
most major advances in medicine came from..... UNIVERSITY ! Two i think of are PET Scan and MRI.
And do you know where and when the flue virus was found ? It was from France PUBLIC Institut Pasteur... around 1918
Not from the private sector. The private sector is great to make drugs but many time they rely on the public not for profit sector researches.
Melpheos1er 2 years ago
Ask yourself this. Why haven't we allowed health insurance to compete across state lines, reformed frivolous law suits, banned annual or lifetime caps, banned precondition limitations, allowed individuals and small businesses to ban together to get group rates, and all of the other FREE things we could have done to reduce costs and protect patients. Why spend a trillion that we all know is going to turn into multi-trillions? POWER. That's all it is. POWER.
BriansVideoHobby 2 years ago
I totally get it. You want all people insured and no limits. We don't need a public option to get that. If there's 500 billion a year in fraud and waste in medicare like Obama says, that alone is $25,000 a YEAR for every American citizen who can't afford health insurance and doesn't qualify for current government run insurance. Don't you see this is a huge rip off? It has NOTHING to do with covering the uninsured and EVERYTHING to do with a power grab.
BriansVideoHobby 2 years ago