Neurology and Consciousness
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We like consciousness, yes. All that matters to us is dependent on it, sure. But it could still be that consciousness isn't rising out of previous teleology, but by the mere fact that higher level of consciousness is higher level of gene duplication (survival of the genes). If consciousness is a property that has causal influence on reproduction, then it certainly is plausible that not all activity in the universe is guided with such cause and that some activity is truly unconscious.
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Great video
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Which video are you referring to? The panel at the end of the conference? Are you talking about the guy who asks the question about "finding a new metaphor"?
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Or, actually, I think it might be in the video below that. Not Koch's actual talk, but in the "closing panel" or something. Downloading it now to have a look. Interesting stuff in Koch's talk anyway.
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omg it's uncanny Ricardo! yeah! I'm in the Philippines now, but SM is home, OTOWN baby. :D
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OMG JediMaster
You live in SM where I was born. Central Coast all the way.
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I certainly don't mean neurology has all the answers at this point, and it's really too general of a statement to jump on anyway. I don't think we're going to learn about our consciousness too far outside of neuroscience, yeah?
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In the first 4 minutes there was nothing about "neurology and consciousness".
Cut the video or change the misleading title.
trakkaton 2 years ago
Maybe I didn't say those words, but it seems relevant to me. Sorry to disappoint!
0ThouArtThat0 2 years ago
Neurology does not have all the answers. In fact, quite the opposite. Modern neuroscience has a theory of consciousness that I find rather simple. Worse than simple -- it is even kind of *silly*. I may need to make a response video here to elaborate. For now, look at the heated exchange between a redhead in the audience and Kristof Koch at the end of the IBM Almaden Conference on Cognitive Computing. All of us on YT should be discussing that exchange.
otonanoC 2 years ago
Where can I find that video?
0ThouArtThat0 2 years ago
Water molecules are not wet. Why are neurons conscious?
Censeo 2 years ago 4
We can speak of emergence when trying to understand consciousness, but there is a world of difference between "wetness" and consciousness. Wetness is a new emergent physical property not found in H2O molecules. But personal consciousness is an emergent spiritual capacity. Unless it was at least prefigured by neural sentience of some sort, we've got a miracle on our hands.
0ThouArtThat0 2 years ago