I can believe in both evolution and a personal God.

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[applecore]

You said that humans are the end goal of evolution.

Is that not completely missing the point of evolution?

[StutteringDave]

I mean that humans are the end goal of evolution as God intended it. Evolution, working by itself, has no end goal. In other words, we are the end goal of evolution in theological terms, but not in scientific terms. This is because God, who used evolution to create us, is undetectable by science. I hope that made sense!

[thecomputergurukid]

Maybe a spaghetti monster exists and saved you from the car accident but is untestable by any way.Does the spaghetti monster exist?

[StutteringDave]

First of all, your missing the point of the video. I was not making a positive claim towards God's existence, but showing his compatibility with the theory of evolution.

Second, I believe in the Christian God because the evidence points towards it.

[thecomputergurukid]

Also can you please show me this evidence and what you talk about is incomplete destruction i.e. god is such a nice guy crashing you car in the first place.You also say how god is undetectable so you have no reason to belive in him.

[StutteringDave]

If you go to my profile you will find a playlist of videos giving the evidence for christianity.

I said he was undetectable to the scientific method, not that one cannot demonstrate his existence to a high certainty.

[JJTecumseh87]

is God an asshole?

[WilltheAtheist]

++"Regardless of context, killing insolent children and homosexuals is very wrong."

God has the right to punish sin.++

By sinning? isen't breaking his own rules very weak and unexpected from a "perfect" being?

++I can't believe I'm hearing this from you man. :( You're sounding like VFX++

Remember that he's a theist evolutionist and therefore got a ugly part. The theist one.

[Syrinx69]

@StutteringDave

Actually, all the evidence points to the Christian god being a man made myth. Historical and archaeological facts show the origins of The Bible and its god are clearly rooted in the earlier gods and religious texts of Mesopotamia.

[buddhaschild]

We see G-D using Nature throw out the Torah and the bible like In decoding Exodus

[jackcfc4eva]

man is indeed the culmination of evoloution. the point the uploader is making is true, that our primate evoloution is detectable by science however our Consciousness which is of god and unrivalled on earth is not as detectable, it of course doesn't mean its not there it just means we cant measure it. its the same problem atheist (logic slaves) have how can something exist that we cant measure? well it can

[applecore]

Thats an interesting point.

But evolution is still going even though you said that God has reached his end goal us humans.

If evolution was a process to get to us humans then should it have ended by now?

Or are you completely separating scientific and theological elements of evolution?

[TheAgnosticAspie]

Hmm, I guess it is possible to believe in evolution and a personal God as well, but I just don't see why God would want to be personal with us. Why would God be so conscerned about wanting us to know about his existance?

[chert95]

It could have saved me a lot of time by stating that god is supernatural, therefore cannot be proven by natural concepts. I'm not sure what connotation story has. Story as in santa claus? Story as in madman rantings? The bible definitely has historical value. Also, 2000 years ago is a bad way to look at it. The old testament was most likely oral before it was written down, so it's hard to determine its age, but it's much older than the new testament gospels and other writings, for sure.

[thecomputergurukid]

I have watched some of that playlist but all it seems to prove that 2000 years ago some people wrote down a story.

That comment means that his videos don't prove god.

[chert95]

I can't find the comment anymore. It was the "2000 years ago" comment. I made an exaggeration based on your comment so you would see its faults.