Steve Gadd's Samba

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[TheMalagutti]

Sorry, but steve gadd has a lot to learn about samba!!!

[boyrob85]

@TheMalagutti No offence dude, but you've got a lot to learn about Steve Gadd. Check out the huge repertoire of his works before you draw conclusions. Read the comments below, your point been discussed already. Cheers.

[TheMalagutti]

@boyrob85 I know his work, only commented on the video in question, and it is not far from samba, steve gadd ia a great drummer, but sometimes he makes mistakes primaries. He mark wrong time in hi-hat, is horrible for me to hear that I'm brazilian!!!

[boyrob85]

@TheMalagutti True, his hi-hat time is not authentic samba in that he keeps it going on the downbeats instead of the off-beats like authentic samba. But I wouldn't call it a mistake because its his own interpretation of the samba groove. Anyways, do check out the links I mentioned, and I'll be interested in your take on whether the samba he plays there is authentic enough (if there's even such a term :-). Cheers

[boyrob85]

@buzzardkill

No i'm not a professional, I just play drums for leisure. The guy in the video is not me, in case you happen to think so. That's the legendary Steve Gadd, one of the best drummers on the planet.

[gleventhal]

@KushAudio I think people take objection to the title samba simply because Americans have taken Samba quite far out of context, and I think if America has a music considered to be our national music, and another country took it, and changed it significantly, to the point that it sounded strange to us, but called it by the same that we do, we would take objection, no! I am an American with Brazilian family members, and studied music here.. I think it's fair that some object to calling it samba

[gleventhal]

@MrFunkymusiclover Listen To Maria Rita is you want to know what jazzy Samba really sounds like. This beat is a fusion beat with some brazilian rhythm inspired ideas.

[gleventhal]

@Ronnybengt He's a great drummer, but Samba is samba, and he isn't playing samba.  No big deal, it just isn't samba.. He is playing partido alto rhythms and a fusion beat.

[gleventhal]

@SAHBfan There isn't a single "rock beat".. rock is a large genre of music.. there is not wrong or right in rock, just good or bad. It is apples and oranges. Samba is dance music, brazilians don't even need to be a musician to be able to decipher correct samba from something that, while might be good, is not samba. playing dotted eight sixteenth on bass drum doesn't make a beat samba. It is as ignorant as an american talking gibberish that sounds like to portuguese and calling it portuguese

[gleventhal]

@MrGritstoner Girl from ipanema is bossa, an entirely different music. A lot of people here are talking about things they don't know about, just because they are steve gadd fans. I like steve gadd, but a lot of these people sound like ignorant assholes to me.. Samba is the national music of Brazil, and it is a dance music that people are born into knowing.. This means, they don't need to be a musician to know that what they are hearing is wrong. I think a lot of people here need to respect it

[gleventhal]

@sweetfly66 Well it IS their national music, and I believe they have a reason to hold it proud and wish to keep it authentic. Also remember, it is a music people DANCE to! Unlike all of the other musics.. When people dance to a type of music all of their life, they tend to feel when something is "off" in the way it is being played. Surely you can understand that, right? Samba is not a listening music as much as a dancing music. That is the main point, they feel the difference.

[sweetfly66]

@gleventhal ...one other thing ... everyone playing something the same way is boring ... no other genre makes people play so rigidly ...well , maybe classical percussion ..but certainly no drumset / dance sort of genre ... even in jazz where you need the sort of swing spang a lang ride cymbal ..there are lots of variations on it , and the jazz cats dont get upset if you stray from the basic beat ..but do that in samba and its a national attack on their pride or something ..its dumb

[sweetfly66]

@gleventhal ... couldnt bastardized also be considered evolution ... i mean really , rock players dont play the same way as they did in 1955 or in the 60`s or 70`s ... by your logic a double pedal is a bastardization of playing bass drum ... i understand that Brazillians consider samba to be something precious or spiritual or whatever , part of their national identity ..but this is 2012 ... it belongs to everyone now

[gleventhal]

@sweetfly66 No, actually he is correct.. in America we have created this Samba Jazz beat that everyone seems to think is real samba.. Listen to Elis Regina, or Almir Guineto, and you will see we have bastardized the Samba beat (which isn't intended to be played on drumset originally).. The type of Samba americans are always trying to play on set is Samba enredo (in-head-oh) this is the Carnival Samba, usually if a drumset is playing brazilian samba, it is playing very specific rhythms.

[sweetfly66]

@TheMalagutti .... who cares if you are Brazillian ... your comments are dumb ... it would be like an American or English guy commenting on your rock playing and then saying " it hurts me because I am American "