ACLU Okay with Prayer in Public Schools (Muslim prayer that is)
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@StoogeWatcher now if you'll excuse me, it's a gorgeous december saturday, and i have a life, and presumably so do you.
from here on out, take nothing at face value, get familiar with google, and refudiate your own bullshittery.
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@StoogeWatcher i know that different users get different results when they google Carver Elementary San Diego Muslim, but my very first result is a statement FROM aclu-sd executive director kevin keenan.
"…But if the school is actually crossing the line and endorsing or encouraging prayers of any kind, then it should cease."
happy? i'm happy. oh, and i'll pat myself on the back, thanks, that exec.director keenan's third paragraph is nearly identical to my own initial comment on this thread.
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@u1u9 Carver Elementary.
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@StoogeWatcher "ACLU suing over Christian prayers at football games and graduations. Yet they ignore Fordson High in Dearborn which has Muslim prayers."
what on earth do you mean by "has muslim prayers".
your track record for obscuring information has me suspecting that the dearborn muslims (unlike your christian footballers) know how to encourage prayer in a fashion that is non-interruptive to school activities, and constitutional. You are so not fun to communicate with.
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@StoogeWatcher "Schools in Texas and Florida that wouldn't give the time of day to Christians are rolling out the welcome mat for Muslim guests"
I have no idea how you expect anyone to address this miraculously nebulous-yet-simultaneously-un
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@StoogeWatcher as for the san diego thing, i told you previously, "i'm really curious what's been left out of your story". in this case, it's the name of the school. and given your antique Byron story, i'm given to wonder more than just "did the school forbid children from praying however they wanted during those breaks?" and "how could you even prevent such a thing?".
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@StoogeWatcher jesus dude, the byron thing was ten goddamn years ago, if the aclu didn't get involved it's because the school changed their approach pretty quickly. the aclu shouldn't waste funds stopping wrongful activities that have already stopped. Ten years ago.
also, that school sent literature to parents about the particular course, and when asked that their kids be exempted, the school obliged. It doesn't seem very "required", as you put it.
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@u1u9 And then you have the ACLU suing over Christian prayers at football games and graduations. Yet they ignore Fordson High in Dearborn, Michigan, which has Muslim prayers. The same ACLU that sues over privately-funded Nativity scenes and crosses has no problem with taxpayer-funded footbaths in schools.
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@u1u9 The big controversity was in Byron, California, where an "Islamic immersion" course is required for seventh graders. In that class, students are required to dress and pray like Muslims, act out jihad, and read the Koran. A San Diego school altered its schedule to give Muslim students prayer breaks. Schools in Texas and Florida that wouldn't give the time of day to Christians are rolling out the welcome mat for Muslim guests. In Massachusetts, there are field trips to mosques.
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@StoogeWatcher hey SW, any luck digging up names or other such facts about these supposed california public schools that make students "dress and pray like muslims"? it's been over a week and i've not heard from you.
I mean, if you're the type that doesn't care if you're spreading and acting on completely fabricated jingoism, then forget i said anything and continue being that kind of a tool.
After a quick google search, I found not one but 63 court cases in the last 5 years in which the ACLU has went to court to defend the individual rights of Christians.
What kind of totalitarian regime do you want where its OK for the rights of people sharing your own religious beliefs to have freedom to practice.
Yet when an organization defends someones freedoms who does not hold the same religious beliefs you do, you attack.
This video should make you ashamed, yet I fear it won't......
Craigmw45 4 months ago 5
I hate to resort to insults, but you seriously can't be stupid enough to believe this is a fair representation of the facts.
The ACLU also fights for Christians right to pray in public, and public schools, it always has. It doesn't fight for the government support of any religion, however.
Craigmw45 4 months ago 2