Forced Famine in Ukraine 1932-1933

I never finished editing and narrating this from last year, i had trouble with the audio. i found it on the computer and decided to share it. some of these clips are authentic filmed during the holodomor genocide and others i took from the film holod (famine) 33

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Education

Tags:

• holodomor
• ukrainian
• genocide
• forced
• famine
• ukraine
• 1933
• 1932
• russia
• soviet
• union
• stalin

[VictorLepanto]

People need to understand, mass exterminations are a fundamental principle of Marxism. Marx talks about geneocide (though the actual word didn't exist yet) brazenly in his writings. Actually the mass extermination of Russians was enthusiastically promoted by Marx. It is no irony that the Bolshevik gang which was put in power by the old German High Command in WWI did precisely what Marx said they should do. Mass extermination is a central Marxist principle.

[julianhayda]

@VictorLepanto

Please cite the communist manifesto. I have read it twice, and I didn't read anything that had to do with genocidal principles.

[MsOKZS]

In his 1953 speech the "father of the [UN] Genocide Convention," Dr Raphael Lemkin described "the destruction of the Ukrainian nation" as the "classic example of genocide," for "...the Ukrainian is not and never has been a Russian... It is a case of genocide, of the destruction of a culture and a nation.."

at uccla website his document: SOVIET_GENOCIDE_IN_THE_UKRAINE­­.

[tagaphon]

@TomDavid88 Yea, I've read about that bullshit. Some minister of former Ukrainian gvt wrote about 7mlns of victims, BUT among these 7 mlns he counted 5 mlns NOT BORN BABIES!!!! Which could be born, but weren't! And in the "Book of Holodomor" they could gather only less than 1(one) million of names, from which very many were proved false.

[TomDavid88]

@Fridaey13txhOktober I have never heard that one, but I think the traditional numbers accepted are 7 million in the Ukraine, and three milliion elsewhere at the same time- the Caucauses and the Crimea.

Tom David

Minneapolis

[Fridaey13txhOktober]

Wasn´t it that Stalin allegely admitted to Churchill that 10 millions.? Version always changes.

It would leave circa half the ukrainian SSR empty.

[TomDavid88]

@Fridaey13txhOktober Watch the video, "Harvest of Despair." And during 1921-2 the Ukrainians were starved then as well as grain was exported from there to feed the people in the Volga region. The man-made famine of 1932-3 is even well documented in the British archives and admit that up to 10 million people were deliberately starved but that it was best to not openly discuss it as they wanted normalized relations with Moscow.

Tom David

Minneapolis

[Fridaey13txhOktober]

Those photos are of things that was a decade earlier, Volga famine and in general, the war in the former Russian Empire between Reds and Whites.

[TomDavid88]

@Fridaey13txhOktober There are TONS of photographs online about it as well, like one where two peasants are standing in front of a table upon which are the remains of two children- a ghastly image which sticks in my mind. But Andrei Chickatilo had nothing to gain from telling about how his brother was eaten, so I don't see how you can even make that argument. And Africans are well fed by the West, leading to a population explosion- they are not "starving" like the Ukrainians were!

Tom David

[Fridaey13txhOktober]

If I wanted pity or so broke I had to eat rats killed by poison to avoid starving, like countless pensioners in the post-sovietic "democracies", I would probably be a witness too.

Even in 1980s ethiopia and other african countries, you don´t see the blacks butchering their childrens en mass for meat, thought they have loads and loads of them.

[TomDavid88]

@Fridaey13txhOktober Witnesses from anywhere. As I say, even the serial killer Andrei Chickatilo talked about it- about his own brother having been killed and eaten during the Holodomir. And he was a committed Communist!

Tom David

Minneapolis

[Fridaey13txhOktober]

Witnesses over teh intrenets? Seriously dude? :-D

The soaps and lampshades might be a reality thou, except not backward in time but forward, in a future brought about by Tel-Aviv´s own genocidal actions.

Pravda?

[TomDavid88]

@Fridaey13txhOktober So all the witnesses that you can find even here on YouTube were lying? They are exactly saying outrageous things like that they were being turned into soap and lampshades, you know! Even Andrei Chickatilo, the mass murderer, talked about the Holodomir.

Tom David

Minneapolis