Re: Muslim silence the American Girl _ Worth seeing

Tit for tat is a recipe for endless conflict, and sometimes the desire to get the last word causes people forget what they are trying to accomplish by debating something.

This is a response to the following video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqRTL6WRDZI

"Muslim silence the American Girl _ Worth seeing" is a video that sends out exactly the wrong message for people interested in ending bigotry of the islamophobic kind.

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[rtanwar1]

You skipped (intentionally) or failed to attempt a reply to all the big points except one raised by the student in the video I know it's tough to answer them in one video hope to see your few more videos where you can address them one by one !!!

[Anekantavad]

@rtanwar1 I didnt skip anything. I included everything I had to say,

[friendlove33]

You're making such a big deal out of a single sentence uttered at the end of the video. His point was merely that Americans cannot tell Muslims to leave America when they themselves stay in Muslim countries. How does any of this imply that Muslim immigrants are "punishing" the West?

I can't get over the fact that you made such a long video to address a single point made at the end of the debate. What about all the other points that were raised?!

[Anekantavad]

@friendlove33 The student says "we will go home when you do", thereby comparing Muslim immigration to military occupation.

Do you not see that?

[friendlove33]

@Anekantavad Again you come back to the single point among many. I can see where you're coming from - there certainly appears to be a slight and unintended comparison made between "Muslim immigration and military occupation", as you put it. Quite frankly, it appears to be a mere attempt to end off a debate on a good note. But this should not, in any way, allow a logical thinker to ignore every other point raised in the debate. Do you not see this?

[Anekantavad]

@friendlove33 "it appears to be a mere attempt to end off a debate on a good note."

You call that a good note? From whose point of view? And what has been accomplished by this kind of thinking?

[psychwardmovies]

@82abhilash They are able to exploit people beyond a measure normally seen, even within religion. I would characterize this more with a lack of empathy than intelligence, but it's really splitting hairs at this point.

[psychwardmovies]

I want to clarify my comment to say that I have NEVER, EVER heard a Muslim immigrant say to my face that Americans are the terrorists. They all champion the US and love being here and leave their country for the financial prosperity and secular freedom of the United States. I do not know ONE Muslim immigrant that would go back to their country for the world, under any circumstances. However, I'm sure a few bad eggs spoil it for the rest and put forth the wrong impression.

[psychwardmovies]

I thought the same thing when I saw the ending of the video: "wait...? IS HE SAYING MUSLIMS COME TO AMERICA TO PUNISH US?"

I can't imagine this was intended. But I also haven't seen the entire movie. Perhaps it was just two immature people being indignant to the other's point. At any rate, it is the worst possibly light to show homeland Islamic relations. Admittedly, it's hard to take when an immigrant calls the US terrorists when they are here, enjoying our freedom, prosperity & resources.

[DulceMuchacho]

LONG BEFORE THE CRUSADES, LONG BEFORE MODERN WARS, ISLAM HAD ALREADY COMMITTED GENOCIDES IN INDIA, PERSIA, HAD INVADED THE BYZANTINE EMPIRE, NORTH AFRICA, SPAIN, FRANCE, LATER CONSTANTINOPLE. THIS INVASIONS WERE DONE IN THE NAME OF GOD BECAUSE THE QURAN TELLS YOU TO FIGHT AND JIHAD IS AGGRESSION TO EXPAND ISLAM. THE WAR IN IRAK, AFGANISTAN WERE NOT MADE IN THE NAME OF NOR NOR THE BIBLE. BUT I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT, EVEN IF YOU DON'T SAY IT, MUSLIM IMMIGRATION IS A PLAGUE FOR THE WEST