what is the pre-wrath rapture pt1.wmv

PASTOR VINCENT SAWYER OF FAITH BAPTIST CHURCH CORONA,QUEENS,NY GIVES THE MOST DETAILED AND BIBLICAL LECTURE ON THE PRE-WRATH RAPTURE VIEW THAT I HAVE EVER HEARD AT CALVARY THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY OF LANSDALE,PA-WARNING!CONTENTS OF THIS VIDEO CONTAIN LARGE DOSES OF TRUTH AND MAY CAUSE REPENTANCE FROM FALSE DOCTRINE!

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[prewrathrapture333]

i hold 9issue with much that u say.u dont give biblical support for the 24 elders being raptured b4 the 70th week.u dont givr biblical support for the prophets being enoch and elijah.ur reconing that the 4 beasts are not angelic is weak and much more than that i find to be ur assumptions.also,the 144,000 of rev7 can not be considered 1st fruits being that they are sealed AFTER the rapture.and the 144,000 that are 1st fruits in rev14 are a group other than that of 7.

[blynch47]

at 9 14 of part 2 he uses Joel 2 31 to show the Day of Lord coming after the sun/moon disaster, however if you do a word study on the word 'before' you will find the proper way to read this would be, at the time of the great and terrible day of the Lord the sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood. Don't take my word for it do your own word study. It is similar to coming before someone, such as coming into there presence. (Example) Mary came before the King

[sorens70601]

...the 144,000, and no other, or second group of 144,000 is ever mentioned in the book of Revelation. The "sealing of the 144,000, is discussed in Ezek.9:1-6, their literal "resurrection" is discussed in Daniel 12, as well as in Rev.12:1-5, and Isa.66:7-8 (as the Man child) These facts are discussed all over the scriptures, you just need to Know where to Look. As for Enoch and Elijah, They are the only Two people who have been removed from the Earth, without death.

[sorens70601]

...suggesting a "Pre-trib" rapture ? (I thought this was a "Pre-Wrath" site ) As for the support for the resurrection of the "24 Elders", you find that in Rev.4:1-6 , 2.Thess2:7, 1.Cor 15 :23, etc. The "24 elders" and the "4 living creatures", testify in Rev.5:8-10, that they are "redeemed" from every Tribe , Tongue, Nation and People, (which means the "4 living creature" are Not Angelic beings, but represent redeemed people)

We find all three the firstfruits in Rev.14:1-4, which includes..

[sorens70601]

@prewrathrapture333 ...I can apreciate that you are very busy, However, I am obliged to respond to your faulty assertion about there being "Two groups" of 144,000, as there is but one such group. Understandebly, all this information cannot be presented in this limited space,(But you could get a copy of my 200 page book,"None Dare Call It Deception", and discover the truth for yourself. When you say that the 144,000 are sealed "after the Rapture", my question is 'What Rapture ?" Are you...

[prewrathrapture333]

@sorens70601 i was just curious to see if u had anything solid that i could consider.sorry to see u dont.just more assumption.im bored and way too buisy to respond to every point.if u make a point in the future that i find to be substenative,then i will respond.but i dont have time to chase every rabbit that people turn loose on me.i literally have dozens upon dozens of responses to all my vids.i have 4 kids and work 6 days a week.sorry if i cant address everything.simply too much assumption.

[prewrathrapture333]

@sorens70601 i hold 9issue with much that u say.u dont give biblical support for the 24 elders being raptured b4 the 70th week.u dont givr biblical support for the prophets being enoch and elijah.ur reconing that the 4 beasts are not angelic is weak and much more than that i find to be ur assumptions.also,the 144,000 of rev7 can not be considered 1st fruits being that they are sealed AFTER the rapture.and the 144,000 that are 1st fruits in rev14 are a group other than that of 7.

[sorens70601]

...resurrects the "Martyrs",(Rev.20:4, and the main "Harvest of the Earht",Rev.14:14-16, 15:2-4) This follows Jesus's own words in Jn.6:39,40,44,54. etc.  "I will raise Him up on the Last day". This refers to teh "last day" of this "present evil age" . (as scripture only discusses two ages; this "present evil age", and "the age to come") That is the bilbical premise, and why it becomes important to warn those "hoodwinked" by the

" Pre-trib" fraud, to get themselves prepared.

[sorens70601]

...to Heaven, the next order of "firstfruits" are the "Hinderer" of 2.Thess.2:7, which when removed, allow the Man of sin to be revealed, then the 144,000 "firstfruits" are resurrected, in the "Middle of the week", and we enter into the Great tribulation (of 42 months) Then we have the "first of the Harvest"(Rev 7:9-17) and at the end of the Great tribulation, Christ returns for the Battle of Armageddon, on the "last day" of this eveil age, which begins at "sunset" the day before, and ....

[sorens70601]

prewrathrapture333....I forgot to mention, that it is only 'after' all the "firstfruits",(all three orders of them) have been resurrected, that Paul in 1.Cor.15:23, declares ; "Afterwards they that are Christ's at his coming". Notice the sequence of events, Christ is resurrected in 31 A.D. on the feast of "firstfruits", and on the same day "the graves that opened" while Christ was yet on the cross, "come out of the graves, and are resurrected to Heaven 40 days later, when Christ ascends ....